Syrian air strike debate all day and Oldham results all night. I don't know when I'll have time to eat or even have a pee.
I'm so tense with anticipation that I know I won't be able to sleep tonight.
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Isn't Oldham Thursday?
Ah, yes. Dur. I'll have to get my carer to remind me.
Oooh - two days of breathless excitement - I might need to increase my medication.
Labour 1:4, UKIP 3:1 according to
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/oldham-west-and-royton/winning-party
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anyone who thinks bombing wont work and that there are no 70,000 crusaders waiting in Syria is according to cameron a terrorist sympathiser. So we start off in a rational mindset.
Cameron's mistake - and this has been pointed out elsewhere here - is that his claim is not sufficiently explicit.
His assertion would have far more credibility if he were more specific and stated that these 70,000 fighters would spring into action within 45 minutes of us launching air strikes.
I am sure there is a dossier somewhere which would confirm this.
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The behaviour during the House of Commons debate is deeply embarrassing. You would think when lives are on the line - there would at least be a dignified silence while both sides of the House listen to the debate. The shocking heckling just suggests that many MPs see the prospect of war as a 'laugh'. Goodness knows what the rest of the world think of us at times like this.
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Back on topic: in Oldham, I see that, occording to Oddschecker:
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/oldham-west-and-royton/winning-party
the odds on Labour retaining the seat have shortened to 1:5. I was hoping for a closer and more exciting contest than that.
Anyone want to make any bets on the size of the Labour majority? Place your bets with Honest Titus.
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If they lose momentum it will be due to the candidate's dodgy tax background rather than Corbyn I think
Labour haven't got any momentum. They are an average of 8 points behind the Tories in the polls, with some showing as high as 15. This in the middle of massive cuts and a Tory bullying scandal.Some say the polls can't be trusted anymore. Historically that's true. They've always overestimated the Labour vote.
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So: Wrenfoe thinks the Labour vote in Oldham may go up; andyiong thinks Labour might be lucky just to hold on to the seat.
Place your bets!
Interesting to see that Hilary Benn's odds of becoming Labour's next leader (9/4) are
currently twice as good as those of his nearest rival Dan Jarvis (9/2):http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-labour-leader
This is all pant-wettingly exciting, isn't it?
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OK, you wet your pants now and again - we get it...
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I watched some of it live in the evening; I was torn between thoughts that either a) each of those who spoke wanted to add something personal and meaningful to the debate- stories of anti-war marching, consulting with local residents at RAF Valley, the MP of Definitely Headless Alan's constituency, 'when I was there I saw...' or b) everyone who spoke (including the bloody irritating interrupters who would get on their hind legs mid speech, demand the speaker give-way, break their thread totally, and state something vacuous like 'will the honourable member agree with me in saying that Isil are really very naughty people and a Brimstone up their be-hooty is all they can expect from Santa')...well, they all just wanted to get their six pennorth in and try to come up with one of 'The Quotes' for the papers, and be able to say 'I spoke in the debate on...'
It was ten and a half hours of MPs trying to get their three minutes of fame (or 20seconds of fame in an interruption if that was the best they could do), and then Nasal HB ran off with The Quote prize and nabbed the headline.
Our Hilary's speech certainly went down well, but partly because of the 'wow' factor of his lineage and his position giving his words added piquancy. It was a terrific reception, and quite well delivered, but the actual script seemed a bit clunky to be hailed as an all-time great speech. 'they are fascists, and what we know about fascists is they need to be defeated' didn't grab me.
My favourite moment was seeing Corbyn's face as Hilary went to sit back down between him and the Paedofinder General. He knew he had to shift up and not look petty, but he looked royally miffed.
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