I assume Ukraine and Russia will give each other top marks
"No Voters Want Us To Quit The EU" Say Major Parties "So Why Is UKIP Popular?"
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Ronseal, you're worse than Hitler.
But I'm right with you in the political middle, willing to take the piss out of anybody who happens to be an idiot.
If Hitler had had a bacon sandwich or a cornish pastie now and again, World War II might never have happened.
But you know what these vegetarians are like. Political correctness gone reich off the scale
"... Most of the decisions in the EU are made not by the parliament but by unelected bureaucrats - which proves UKIP's point."
In the hope ofAt the risk of pissing off even more readers who disapprove of political content in NB contributions, may I say that sydalg has it spot-on.
Sadly however, what is surprising is that in their outrage that anyone could dare to submit a post referring to UKIP without mentioning their barking madness, few readers seem to be able to recognise the Mary Jane syndrome which the OP was satrising:
For the hard-of-thinking, and/or blindly loyal supporters of any of the maninstream parties, let me flat-footedly spell it out:
"A new political party is attracting a surprising and growing amount of support. The more establshed parties are baffled by this. 'I wonder what the source of their popularity is? It can't be anything to do with their policies, can it? It's not as if they have any clear, central theme, is it? "United Kingdon Independence Party" - what's that all about? Why can't they be like the SNP and choose a name which spells out clearly what they stand for?"
Oddly enough, no-one seems surprised that a party which favours the independence of a nation (a clue is in their name) from a centuries-old union which shares a common language and a common currency, has a lot of support. And opponents of this party concentrate on the merits (or folly) of this policy rather than the lifestyle or mannerisms of its leader.
The ludicousness of ignoring a party's central policies when trying to combat it applies equally whather you favour our coninued membership of the EU or ending it, and equally whether your politivcal leanings are left, right or centre."
Yes, but where are the lols?
UKIP were out campaigning in town yesterday. I can see where all the Countryside Alliance went !
'Get orf moi land ! Don't let these damn foreigners in, apart from the Poles, got a load on my farm, work like bally Trojans'
Blimey, Ronseal, you've got a good memory. Mine is vaguer but I think I once bunged some stars at something that I thought was funny and seemed right-wing. It certainly wasn't an accusation.
Of course there is such a thing and I appreciate it when done well: Bernard Manning (IMHO) was a brilliantly funny old fashioned gag teller, though a repellent man; Jim Davidson is just repellent and unfunny. Actually I think the Daily Mash is, if anything, basically right-wing individualist in its hilarious contempt for everyone.
There's no Politburo here, though. JOF's politics are a matter of record and mine are basically the same, but all sorts gets used. In fact of those on here whose politics I know, there are definitely more more right-wingers than left.
This should have been used for a letter to the Daily mail until it can be worked into a humorous submission.
The tories in particular seem to struggle with the euro question; with 'innies' and 'outies' under their umbrella. Its as though the central defining argument is capitalist versus socialist, rather than nationalistic or Europhile versus Europhobe.
Where it is reversed, as with UKIP or SNP, it seems these parties have their capitalist/socialist debate as a secondary point- UKIP righties, SNP lefties.
The big irony for me is that the Tories are campaigning to maintain a Union with Scotland, when without the tranch of over-represented Scotland MPs the rest of Britain would probably be permanently Tory. Seems to totally go against the inevitable political self-protectionism that is all pervading these days.
Politically, I'd pay to hear Norman Tebbit and Keith Joseph debate with Michael Foot and Tony Benn. Since them? Meh.
Titus, you seem to think that the negative reaction and the 1* is because of the point you are making, and that you are bravely daring to challenge the main parties and not criticising UKIP. But I don't think it has anything to do with people's political opinion's, it is just that you have simply stated your point.
It is a good point but needs working into a format rather than just writing up as a fact. The excellent kebab FP from the other day could have just been posted as "some people have an issue with halal meat", but it wasn't.
Think of the point you want to make - major parties believe nobody wants to leave the EU, yet UKIP are gaining support - and then think how you can make that point or satirise that view, don't just post it as a fact.
By the way, the stray apostrophe in opinions in the first paragraph was deliberate, a little gift for you to enjoy on a Sunday afternoon. Your welcome.
No, no - it wasn't my welcome, it was yours.
"Think of the point you want to make - major parties believe nobody wants to leave the EU, yet UKIP are gaining support - and then think how you can make that point or satirise that view, don't just post it as a fact."
No, that was not my point. The major parties do not think that everyone wants wants us stay in the EU; thay just do not think that anyone is interested in the question at all. Yet they are baffled by the growing popularity of a party for whom (the clue is in the name) it is the central issue.
Just like Mary Jane, where the whole joke was not about whether rice pudding was nice or not, or even whether or not Mary Jane liked the stuff, but about the fact that the parent simply could not grasp why Mary Jane was having a tantrum, and couldn't even begin to get their heads around the possibility that, for Mary Jane, rice pudding could be an issue - either way. A subtle but vital distinction.
However I am resigned to that fact that A A Milne was an infinitely better writer than me and actually managed to make people laugh at his jokes.
I'm pretty sure that the major parties are well aware that many people want to leave the EU because of the bile fed to them by the Daily Mail and UKIP (which is garnering much popular support as a result), what's puzzling them is the fact that so many people think it a good idea so to do as the only issue worth voting on.
Yeah, that was delibarate too, thought you'd enjoy that.
"... many people want to leave the EU because of the bile fed to them by the Daily Mail and UKIP ..."
Yes, of course, Mary Jane would love rice pudding, if only the Daily Mail (and the Anti-Rice-Pudding-Party) had not told her to dislike it.
Yes, that's pretty much it.
"Yeah, that was delibarate too, thought you'd enjoy that."
I would never have guest.
Anyway, I'm off to eat my meusli, just as soons as I've read the Daily Mail in order to find out whether I like it or not.
A Carol diagram required ( just went and checked with my primary school-age children what it is actually called- amazing what I've learnt from them lately, one of them said they'd been taught about a subordinating clause...I had to smile knowingly and hope I could blag it).
Anyway, Europe in and Europe Out on the left side, one above each other, and socialist / capitalist across the top.
Be interesting where the pattern of crosses would fall.
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