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  • Started 2 years ago by o b sensible
  • Latest reply from antharrison

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  • Croissants anyone?
  • fight fight fight fight
  • i'm inside the tent pissing in
  • I'm now officially a Cyber Bully
  • inside my own tent pissing into someone elses
  • inside the tent pissing out
  • outside the tent pissing in
  • Plucky man kay
  • Superannuated floorwalker off his meds
  • That's Dickhead and Twatface to you sonny
  • trolls faasands of 'em
  • why is Plucky still here
  • would the last Plucky turn off the lights?
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  1. o b sensible

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    Someone posts a piss take of a standard sub, it gets taken down, he tries to discuss it intelligently, everyone jumps on him. Someone tries to discuss why a nib was not seen as overly offensive, everyone jumps on him. Someone posts a supportive comment on a jof article, some people even jump on that. It's like a gang of kids bullying any outsider who ventures onto their territory. Maybe it's insecurity. Sub something yourself they say, especially those who don't sub themselves.

    I support using the chat room for intelligent and open discussion without people being jumped on for not fitting in. My only beef is when people start getting arsey or unduly provocative like plucky sometimes used to. For the new people, plucky is someone who finally left for good once and for all adieu not au revoir no don't try to make me change my mind a few days ago and took all the fish and who is never ever ever ever ever coming back.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. The All New Jeni B

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    And you can cock off too.

    (Ps, he's back...) X

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. andhrimnir

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    I do like cock off but I'm wondering whether cock right off would work too. Yes, I think it does.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. AdrianJ

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    OB, shut the fuck up and give me your dinner money, or I'll twat you one and make you lick the brown Goldfish!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. The All New Jeni B

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    In fact, 'cock the fuck off' and 'cock the fuck right off' also work.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. ramblesnake

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    You're right Mr Sible. I've always thought of this place as like a school playground (not my old school, of course). The funny thing about Fergie, I thought, was that it wasn't too long ago when Rikkor was being bashed about in exactly the same way. Now everyone thinks that they are Rikkor's best friend. There's hope for you yet Fergie, if you cut the pompous. That Billy mind you-what a wanker.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. Brenda SugarTits69

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    Thanks, Ramblesnake. You know, sometimes you find yourself in a chat-room spat that you know isn't that big a deal, but you want to make sure you've got your point across anyway...so I saved up all the main points till bed time, and wrote my little theses as precisely as I could...they were a bit pompous. I don't normally write like that.

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  8. BillyBitzer

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    That Billy mind you-what a wanker.

    The trouble with the internet is people make snap judgements based on a few lines of text. If you met me in person you would know I was a wanker.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. Genghis Cohen

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    Apologies for interrupting the flow of well-informed interjections, but I'm with o b sensible on this.

    Q. Is the NIB saying that eugenics is funny?
    A. No. It's aim was to draw humour from applying something that has been used for evil to a much more mundane target.

    Q. Could the NIB be funnier and it's target clearer?
    A. Yes.

    Q. Is it unfortunate that a story whose target appears to be the poor and uneducated makes the front page on the same day as the editor suggests satirists ought to be aiming for more powerful targets than the poor and uneducated?
    A. Yes.

    Q. Is Billy raising a reasonable point about what is and is not offensive?
    A. Yes

    Q. Does a contributor have to submit material to the site to be able to express an opinion?
    A. Not since I last looked. (Rest easy, rikkor.) Though sadly there does appear to be a bit of an insider/outsider split emerging.

    Q. Is editorial policy and/or a writerly elite reinforcing a series of memes (nice word) which acts to exclude new talent?
    A. No. There are too many new writers achieving success to give this credence. That said...

    Q. Is editorial policy and/or a writerly elite biased towards a particular style and set of preoccupations?
    A. Of course. This is called personal taste, which is something I believe editors are tested on during recruitment, and writers really ought to cultivate.

    Q. Is this the end of the patronising Q&A?
    A. Yes.

    No need to tell me - I'm cocking off of my own volition.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. Brenda SugarTits69

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    Hi Mr Cohen,

    I think Billy has a point, and most people are choosing not to take it seriously, which is making the debate more bad-tempered that it needs to be.

    With my recent run-in, I only meant it as a piss-take parody of a NewsBiscuit sub. I wasn't writing in to complain, but I thought some people might see a grain of truth in it, and find it a bit funny. You know, where you take a minor trend (a whole bunch of religious stories in one week, one too many vuvuzelas) and extrapolate it to a ridiculous extreme.

    I thought I would get some flack, obviously, but I thought I'd better explain the mechanics behind the idea head on instead of slinking off.

    I tried starting out saying that I didn't necessarily believe that there was anything malicious at work, it was just humour, not necessarily serious etc, but it got taken a lot more seriously than I thought and so on...

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  11. Mary Evans

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    Oh and Gengo, you can fuck RIGHT OFF...

    I agree that the chat board should be an open forum for discussion and Billy, you have every right to raise the point, as does anyone else to tell you to cock off. That's democracy, that.

    I personally took umbrage at Fergie's sub, purely because I felt it was a rather personal dig at writers who had been writing some great FPs in recent times (myself not being amongst them). But we've talked about it and hugged now - we can agree to disagree.

    If there is an insider/outsider divide going on (and Genghis, you are sooo on the outside), I think it is purely arising from those people who actually try to contribute their efforts and constructive comment getting a little chewy at those who appear to do nothing but moan without putting their own efforts up for the same criticism they are doling out. Which is an utter hypocrisy, as Rikkor's been doing it forever (love you petal) and yet most of us find him rather charming.

    As for me, I just think everyone is a cnut at the moment.

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  12. MrChigleysAunt

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    The most important of the things Genghis C mentions (most of which I agree with) is that it was unfortunate that this NiB appeared on the same day as the Editor's article. It was a bit of a shot in the foot, or an own goal if you prefer.

    But the NiB was funny.

    I'm going off at half cock.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. o b sensible

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    Never mix shot in foot with foot in mouth. Nice to see everyone being sensible. Did someone say plucky's back?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. riesler

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    can I come in please? (he says in a very small voice, 'cos there's some scary people out here)

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. brownpaperreporter

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    Ive just googled "half-cock foot" and it said "See England Soccer"

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  16. Iscariot

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    I thought Eugenics was the name of one of Fergie's daughters...

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  17. FormerlyAlOPecia

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    I feel like an outsider and I have been here since day 1, all those years ago when we still thought NB was going to be a radio show, and that we'd all be doing guest slots on I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue.

    I think analysing subs then trying to draw a line of what is or isn't funny/allowable, rather than just voting for them is.....Oh Fuck I'm at it now.

    Cocking right off, pro tem.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. PluckyMunky

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    You're a hypocrite, Mr Sensible. I have been 'jumped on' for questioning the taking down of subs, editorial authority and similar. I have also been critical of those who moan but never offer subs (our friend from across the pond springs to mind, who seems to loves to stir up unpleasantness but almost never posts - and, I suspect, many are scared of him and side with him, readily, which is sad in itself). I am not at all sure what you mean by 'My only beef is when people start getting arsey or unduly provocative like plucky sometimes used to', when you have previous said that you feel people should be free to say what they like.

    I have been accused of lots of things: being a 'troll', being Gerontius (whoever he was), being Fergie (who has been on the board at the same time as me), blaming my mental condition on my writing on this page... and so on. I can fully appreciate that my threats to leave can be tiresome: that's me, I suppose.

    In my defence, I would say that I have contributed my fair share of items to the writers' page and a few seem to have been appreciated and a few have made the ticker tape.

    I find the anonymous, unpleasantness of the tags a bit hard to take - I admit that.

    You say,in your first message on this page that:"I support using the chat room for intelligent and open discussion without people being jumped on for not fitting in". I don't reckon I am unintelligent and probably don't 'fit in', either. But I still get jumped on and you appear to be one of the jumpers. Like our pal across the water, you seem to enjoy a good stir. That's OK, I guess. I don't see masses of your work on the writers' page, which, presumbably, is the whole point of this site.

    I have contributed to this board for quite awhile now and I suspect that you have too. I would just ask you not to appear liberal, on the one hand, while slapping people down on the other. We are all flawed, that's for sure.

    Your most interesting line is: 'Maybe it's insecurity. Sub something yourself they say, especially those who don't sub themselves'. Yes, indeed.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. FormerlyAlOPecia

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    Christ, I've just looked at o b sensible's forum page and this is the only topic he/she has started - just remember it's "sub, sub, crit, crit, sub".

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  20. Mary Evans

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    is that like knit, knit, pearl, knit, Al?

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  21. sauce

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    o b has been around forever - he even popped up in Star Wars.

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  22. The All New Jeni B

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    Seeing as I post a sub only when Mercury is in the last aspect of a blue moon, have never had a ticker or NiB, and only a share and hand-full of assists with the FP I should shut up.

    But I won't.

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  23. Mary Evans

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    But you never whine, Jen. You are Queen of the Chat Board. But then I would say that, as I'm part of an exclusive clique that has fast-track access to the FP, JoF's villa in the Seychelles and darkbill's secret identity...

    As an addendum to the favouritism debate, earlier this year, I started posting subs under a pseudonym, created a whole new account, with a separate e-mail address so that even his Edness wouldn't know it was me. Of the five things I posted, three made the NiBs and one the FP. So if there is a clique, I'm glad that both of my split personalities are in it.

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  24. Dickens or Shakespeare

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    Plucky, I admire you persistence, but perhaps you're trying too hard.

    Your contributions have the endearing quality of a three week old takeaway that has just been eaten by a tramp and puked up onto a fresh dog turd. Everyone tells you that; yet you still get back on the stage to the deafening chorus of boos and catcalls and trot the same old infantile crap out time and time again.

    You do much the same on the chat page, dominating every single post with your unrelenting interruptions and tantrums. It's very boring. I see you've been online for over 150 hours. Are you taking this website too seriously? Why not chill a little?

    Sorry for the frankness, but it would take too much time to do this in tags.
    Hope this is polite enough. Can I have the kid's frisbee back, please?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. rikkor

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    Any commenter calling another "Mr." or "Miss" should be treated with caution. The habit seems to be proliferating under various guises. (Take Mary of Guise for instance, or Guise Fawkes.)

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  26. rikkor

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    Jeni, I believe that you are our own Margaret Mitchell, you have one great "Gone With The Wind"-like sub in you. When you post it, the sub will then become a well-loved movie starring the modern-day equivalents of Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh. Then, you will be run down in the street.

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  27. The All New Jeni B

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    That is both fantastically flattering, and terrifyingly worrying Rikkor.
    I feel now the weight of expectation upon my small shoulders, and trepidation at crossing the road.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  28. FormerlyAlOPecia

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    Or Des Guise of Greater Hiding-in-plain-Site.

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  29. rikkor

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    Jeni, getting run down in the street doesn't happen to all great writers, just some. I could look it up, but M, Mitchell was run down by a taxi, or a streetcar (named?) or maybe just a car. Don't worry unnecessarily...

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  30. Doctor Moptop

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    Saki's ma was run down by a cow.

    Is it too late for you to join the Tufty Club, Jeni? Just to be on the safe side.

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