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   Ironduke
   

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   You can almost hear the cheers!

   Posted 5 years ago #

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   sydalg
   

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   Pretty swift obit, for a healthy 52-year-old man.

   Posted 5 years ago #

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   Ironduke
   

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   Ayah...you think the Telegraph were in on the assassination conspiracy, and so had heads up to get the obit drafted in advance. They've given themselves away there, haven't they?

   SAS hit? Polonium? Or fat knacker with bacon toxicity?

   Posted 5 years ago #

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   FOAD
   

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   Pretty swift obit, for a healthy 52-year-old man.
   

   
   Erm, not that healthy.
   All the papers have obits prepared for everyone in the public eye, so as to avoid being caught out. Except, apparently, the Queen, as to write about the Monarch's death in advance is still treason.

   Posted 5 years ago #

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   riesler
   

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   Should you have written that then?

   Posted 5 years ago #

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   Titus
   

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   Wot like not being allowed to utter the name 'Jehovah'?

   Aaaaaaagh! ... [Thud]

   Posted 5 years ago #

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   Jesse Bigg
   

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   A working-class saint; a man of the people - contrast that with greedy bankers and me first for the high-speed train!

   Posted 5 years ago #

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   Ironduke
   

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   Would that be the working class saint who held on to living in a council house despite being on a stonking salary and lifestyle to boot?

   Posted 5 years ago #

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   Al OPecia
   

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   Sorry ID don't see why that should rule him out from living in a council house?

   Posted 5 years ago #

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    pere floza
    

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    I guess the general view is that a true socialist upon drawing 145000 a year would feel he could pay market rates for a house and give up his council house to someone who needed the subsidy

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    Scroat
    

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    The sort of bollocks to be expected from the Telegraph. What a rag.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    writinginbsl
    

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    the telegraph did an obit of my father last year and managed to get almost every 'fact' wrong...

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    Ironduke
    

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    I thought that's what council housing is there for...? Subsidised housing for those who need it.

    Always perplexes me that union leaders can grant themselves salaries commensurate with 'bosses', paid for directly by their oppressed worker brethren, and they don't seem to bat an eyelid.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    Scroat
    

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    Arthur Scargill is an outstanding example.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    Midfield Diamond
    

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    On the contrary, if a union leader has the negotiating skills to sort himself out with a decent salary, there is a chance that he might do the same for his members. Few would argue that Bob Crow was not a tough negotiator, irrespective of your opinion of him.

    Personally, I'd be suspicious of someone who was happy with £25k a year going in to bat for me over my salary/pension/benefits/welfare with bosses on ten times that.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    Ironduke
    

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    Interesting that if its the union leader on X wedge, then they earn and deserve it and their pay is a reflection of their capabilities. If its an employer on X wedge, they are an exploitative fat-cat.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    riesler
    

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    Very astute observation Ironduke.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    beau-jolly
    

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    Same arguement goes for socialist MPs. How can you justify the salary and lifestyle and still remain socialist. Any non-MP on a similar package would vote Tory. You have to be conciderably more wealthy to be able to afford the luxury of a true social conscience.

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    Titus
    

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    "Personally, I'd be suspicious of someone who was happy with £25k a year going in to bat for me over my salary/pension/benefits/welfare with bosses on ten times that."

    Just so. I wouldn't want someone as useless as me to represent me in salary negotiations - or in court, or in Parliament.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    Midfield Diamond
    

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    Big leap in logic there, Titus. You make it sound as if MPs are working for their constituents.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    deceangli
    

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    I definitely wouldn't want somebody on £25k pa looking after me in hospital, or defending the country from invaders. Pay everybody £140k!

    Posted 5 years ago #

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    Ironduke
    

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    ...of which 120k will then go on taxes to pay all those public servants 140k. A least we'll all be able to brag about our salaries though.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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