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Should this sub be banned? Or just quietly ignored?


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  • Started 10 years ago by SugarTits69
  • Latest reply from The All New Jeni B

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  • A troll by any other name...
  • Ach mein Gott: Ze Emperor ist naket
  • Beaker!!!
  • Begin the be-meme.
  • Da Da De Da Da
  • Fair point? Now up to the oche.
  • far far far
  • for Christ's sake
  • get your head from out your arse
  • give me subs or give me death
  • Heart me I'm mental
  • me me me me meme
  • Meme me
  • Mi chiamo Meme
  • Oh for God's sake Fergie...
  • Oh for God's sake Plucky
  • Ooh look! It's a belly button!
  • Pistache rides 50 cents.
  • Plucky? Or just plucky?
  • Quiet ignorance
  • Quite ignorant
  • Shut the fuck up
  • Shut the fuck up indeed
  • so la de da
  • so la tee doh.
  • so lite and puportive
  • some biscuits are bonkers
  • suspiciously plucky goes and fergie arrives
  • That's all Faulks
  • What a load of shite
  • WOuld the real 'Fergie' please stand up
  • would the real Fergie sit down and shut up
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  1. SugarTits69

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    I'm not saying I agree with the sentiments of the sub below, but if this sub appeared, do you think the correct action would be to remove it immediately? Or should we just look the other way?

    Jesus on Vuvuzela in John Terry led Coalition iPad of Comedy Shite

    NewsBiscuit subs board finally ate itself last night as the “perfect storm” parody news article was subbed by pistache2010 on NewsBiscuit’s writers’ forum. Whereas subs usually combine two prevalent comedy elements, for example Christianity and football, or politics and vuvuzelas, this sub managed to include all the necessary shibboleths for publication.

    “Pistache2010”, awash with plaudits from fellow “biscuiteers” commented through snorts of pleasure, “to plough the same furrow, only deeper, takes an enormous effort. Weeks were spent combing through previous subs for successful memes, which were weighted according to how many stars they got, whether they were from alpha-contributors, and whether they made it to the website.”

    Pistache 2010 went on to explain that, “I knew from the start I had to build it round an irreverent Christian concept, a proven winner, then weave in some detail from the previous day’s world cup game. The vuvuzela is a given – that has to be there – but then I had to decide which Apple product to include…the iPhone 4 or the iPad…in the end I decided to do both.

    “Finally I needed to lampoon the Coalition government. My comedy instincts told me to home in on the apparent lack of power enjoyed by Nick Clegg in the Conservative led coalition, because sub after sub has shown that the apparent lack of power enjoyed by Nick Clegg in the Conservative led coalition is the funniest thing in politics this year.”

    Pistache2010 confirmed that for now, his inspiration well has run dry, but expects to be able to whistle up a very similar sub tomorrow afternoon.
    “You never know – a dodgy decision in the Brazil – Chile match tonight, and I expect I can rehash the ….Oh Fuck! I forgot Wimbledon!”

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. SugarTits69

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    The thing is, it's meant in good humour - can we laugh at ourselves? And anyway, it's not about you personally - it's about all those other contributors...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. Des Custard

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    You missed Dawkins (though probably covered by Christianity reference), quantum mechanics and surveys.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. Des Custard

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    And dogs and children and men v women misunderstandings.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. jp1885

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    And knob gags.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. Oxbridge

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    Who cares? It's only comedy. *Fart* *snigger*

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  7. Mary Evans

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    Forgive the fact that my mental broadband width isn't what it might usually be (my stomach width more than compensates) but has the wheel of Biscuit finally come full circle and there are now rumblings of discontent at the site being TOO topical??

    Next thing you know, there'll be protests at the scores being too high and I'll look for pestilence, famine et al along the horizon...

    Forgive me if I'm at the wrong end of the stick. Perhaps I don't really understand what the stick is.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. jp1885

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    Never mind the stick, where's the carrot tied to the end of it?

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  9. The All New Jeni B

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    There's no mention of the scoring system either...

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  10. editor

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    This sub was taken down because it read like a slightly bitter attack on more successful NB writers particularly the handful who had written great front pages recently on a religious theme. The 'comedy shite' in the title is not the way us genteel NewsBiscuit folk like to talk about one another, we're all very polite and supportive here, so I felt it appropriate to press the delete button and pull the net curtains and hope the neighbours hadn't noticed...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. saltire

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    I read the post and tried to mark it accordingly, only to be informed that it had been removed. Pity..

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. Golgo13

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    We should sacrifice topicality to be funny, but never sacrifice funny to be topical.

    In the rush to post, it's tempting to do the (A + B) = funny where A and B are topical memes, and it can get a bit "meh"...I blame the internet. There's never enough time to do a proper job...

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  13. SugarTits69

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    It was the third religious FP in four days that triggered this outburst. And the heat. I've been registered for a few days - reader for a quite a bit longer. There just seemed to be less variety over the past month.

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  14. jp1885

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    There just seemed to be less variety over the past month.

    That's because I'm not writing anymore. Just you look out if I start being funny again!

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  15. saltire

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    Again... ? Kebabs all round.

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  16. Mary Evans

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    JP, I am unaware that you have stopped being funny. And not just in a 'laugh at you' fashion. Although you're good for that too, cobber. Just make sure that when you do post, it's not too topical. Or non-topical. Or satirises anyone from any region whatsoever.

    It's such a shame that those who feel the need to attack the content of the site - and by implication those who volunteer their time and talent to contribute to it - don't have an outlet to do better themselves. An open writers' room for example, where anyone could post a contribution they think is worthy of the front page...

    My own grumpy snideness aside, Fergie, the sub does come across as sour grapes to me. Why not channel your creative energies into an original piece that shows everyone how it's done? Consider the gauntlet thrown, old bean.

    Grumpy, hot and hormonally,
    Mxx

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. Oxbridge

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    Maz, when are you due? It must be a real endurance test in this weather.

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  18. Mary Evans

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    Another month, Oxy. You of all people should know...

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  19. Stan

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    Now that Rooney and his hopeless pals are history, perhaps we can have a left alert featuring these recent religious masterpieces and similar Goddish items.

    Can we call it 'Amen Corner' please?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. ramblesnake

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    No sneering at Daily Mail readers or Nick wotsisname?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. saltire

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    I blame Nick Griffin.....for everything.

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  22. ramblesnake

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    Who's Nick Griffin? I was talking about Nick Wotsisname, used to write the palm-reading section of the Socialist Worker's society page.

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  23. SugarTits69

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    OK, "topical / non-topical" and the repeated memes are largely red herrings...there's only funny or not funny, well-written or poorly written, right? Obviously you've used some of the memes raised in the sub, and may feel I was having a go at you personally, but like ingredients in cooking, a lot depends on the skill of the cook. Tired ingredients in the hands of a Michelin starred chef can still be delicious.

    Anyway the sub sought to mock three things

    1) Editorial policy - the religious obsession. Obviously any negative comment about editorial policy can be dismissed as "bitterness" when it comes from a potential contributor, but that's a bit lazy, and I hope it can be acknowledged that irresoective of these articles' undoubted merits, they could have been staggered over a longer period or, as Stan Laurel suggested above, enshrined in their own Amen Corner. This is our shop window, and it should be used to display a variety of goods.

    2) Repetitive meme usage - present company excepted, all too many subs chuck a few catchwords in, and rely on recognition of very recent minor news/sports events (refereeing decisions etc) for their impact. This is lazy, and the sub loses value very quickly as the story passes. Often a successful initial use of a comedy element - say, the vuvuzela meme - embeds it in the forum culture until it becomes a cliche for the hurried poster to clutch at.

    3) Entrenched establishment - now these cliques exist all over the internet, and it's not my job to tell you that you can't have one here. But they enable stasis and can discourage newcomers who aren't in tune with the evolved culture. So it is my job to come in a throw a few darts. I'm not on a crusade, though, and I don't want to overthrow the old guard. Just point out that there's an appearance of cosiness.

    So what to do? Well, comedy just has to poke fun - there's no onus to provide solutions - the barb is enough.

    However, I will personally do my best to post alternative material on both topical and non-topical themes, hopefully using a variety of styles, feature pieces, breaking news, interviews, op-ed etc and with as little recourse to cliched memes as I can.

    In the end, there's only funny or not funny, well-written or poorly written and while there'll be differences of taste on these matters, hopefully there is plenty of room for a variety of approaches.

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  24. Svendo

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    Fergie,

    I've only been a biscuiteer for a few weeks and I too have found that as with all Internet forum type places where there is a community there are memes and codes of conduct. At first I too was paranoid that there was going to be a cliquey style in crowd as my first few subs were dismissed without comment (and they were obviously hilarious as I wrote them). I made the effort to lurk about and read some of the older posts and even just directly ask (like when someone mentioned puffin twatting) and then I started to feel like a member of the community. Before I started to chat on and get to know the locals I had some success as I had an FP and a number of ticker hits and this made me see that it isn't an incrowd thing where you have to know the current jokes and themes to get along. It's probably also worth mentioning that since I started to integrate with the locals I've probably posted about 30 subs and only 2 have made it as far as the ticker or the news in brief.

    essentially don't flounce and kick up a fuss (or even start to troll) and just keep plugging away with the subs. The quality stuff will get picked up by the editor (And by the way mr Editor, I must say you're doing a fine job) and you will get your moment in the sun.

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  25. Altar Ego

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    It's like going into a pub for the very first time, standing on a chair and telling everyone that they are drinking the wrong thing, and that everyone should be 'drinking what I'm drinking' without even having ordered anything.

    There's a Wetherspoons down the road if you prefer their tipples.

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  26. MightyBlair

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    My take is this - you are entitled to your opinion, and you have the right to express it. I don't agree with your view point but I actually applaud your stance in a way; you said it, questioned it and defended it. Fair enough. But the writer's room is for subs that aim to make the web site, and there is no hope in hell that a sub lampooning the state of the site is going to make the website. If you want to discuss these things, then do it in the chat room. That is what it is for. School boy error! By putting it in the writer's room you were being deliberately inflammatory, and there is no need. Save it for a Facebook update that says 'Newsbiscuit talking about relgion and coalitions... AGAIN!! lol'

    Secondly, if you are so counter-culture (which is an amusing notion given it is Newsbiscuit - if you have a battle to fight, then take it to the streets, not the internet from the comfort of your living room) then don't be surprised if you piss the editor of the website off. You clearly knew it might happen, so don't flounce when it does. It is his website, and it is not a democracy.

    That all said though, I'm sure you can contribute well, and will clearly voice your opinion on matters, which is always welcome. Just do it in the right way.

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  27. rikkor

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    I'm so bored that I actually had time to read this string. Here's my Fergie imitation: "Blah, blah, blah, I'm so smart I write words like 'meme' as much as I can. But, I'm also super-bitter about some imagined slight. Blah, blah, blah." Oh, and if another person writes "meme" here s/he is setting him(her)self up for a severe piss-pounding. Flounce!

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  28. rikkor

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    Belated kudos to Jeni B.: Too funny "and no mention of the point system"! Oh, and Svendo, your simpering, toadying and craven need for acceptance have not gone without notice. They make me as hard as Chinese geometry.

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  29. sauce

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    There you go. Rikkor and Jeni B are now a clique, obviously. Jeni is actually Maz, or possibly Darkbill - or both; Rikkor is the ed and Almighty God. And I'm actually a woodlouse called Lola - the extra legs are handy for typing. (But not typing anything that makes the FP.)

    NB's not a collective, Fergie: it's the ed's site and his choice for the FP. If he started picking subs that were very different in "feel" he'd lose regular readers.

    But kudos for being honest, saying what and why you think it's not right. Now just write some funny subs that fall outside the usual comfort zone and are funny enough to make it onto the FP.

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  30. saltire

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    It's all meme meme meme with some people...like Marcel Marceau.

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