Did anyone see the Ann Widdecombe piece on BBC last night?
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I really wouldn't like to see Ann Widdecombe's piece.
OK, a serious answer:
I quite enjoyed it, despite being no big fan of Marcus Brigstock or Ann Widdecombe. It explored how comedy about religion can be seen as blasphemy by some people, without getting too heavy or intellectual about it. Admittedly, most of the examples discussed were years old such as Life of Brian and Goodness Gracious Me, but they remain amongst the most well-known cases of comedy provoking religious outrage, so they were fair game I suppose. But it was also stated that many of today’s comics and religious leaders refused to take part in the programme, so there was little contemporary material in the programme.
Hardly surprisingly, it was established that many people enjoy a good religious joke but become deeply upset when jokes are made about certain aspects of their beliefs, whether or not that was the intention of the writer. ‘Wounded’ was Ann Widdecombe’s word regarding how she felt about Goodness Gracious Me’s treatment of holy communion for instance, even though she understood that the sketch was not poking fun at Christianity but at the two Asian families trying to behave like Christian church-goers.
However, the programme didn’t go on to explore censorship versus freedom of expression, or whether blasphemy is becoming more acceptable these days, for example. It just kind of fizzled out without making any real conclusions. I still thought it was interesting and mildly entertaining though.
Midfield Diamond, Newsbiscuit TV critic
Was Marcus Brigstocke in it?
He usually has a lot of incisive and original observations.
Will they be interviewing an outraged homeopathist next? Oh I forgot the church is has a ban on homeopathic marriages...hold on....
I watched it. La Widdecombe spoke about feeling 'physically wounded' when her greiving process for the death of Christ was being mocked.
Brigstocke asked 'How long is the grieving process?' and just stifled a smirk- obviously about to scoot along a surely-2,000-years-is-long-enough-to-move-on angle.
La W moved to intercept, saying 'it begins again with every communion/mass'.
Neat; however; why sign up to a fairy story that leaves you feeling bereaved of a loved one once a week?
Brigstocke's observations on the horrific implications of natural disasters being punshments for the ungodly were very apposite.
I'm afraid my views remain that religion is there for the simple minded who need to feel there is a higher power looking after them, and they are somehow a more important part of some grand plan and design. No more validity or preciousness than anyone elses slightly potty superstition, so suck it up Widders.
Agreed ID, what a lot of time and effort wasted on nonsense.
AAAH. Just had an arguement with some homeopaths. I pointed out that a dilution 10 to the 32 is less than an atom in the solar system but they just kept repying with "Yes but it works" Aaaaaaaaa!!
They then said "when it work, it works" which is different but they wouldn't accept that when it doesn't it doesn't, so the effect may not be down to the homeopathy.
My suggestion of a double blind experiment using a Smartie as an alternative was met with the statement "but it works!" No it fucking doesn't because it fucking can't! aaaaaaaaH! "Well how do you know an atom exists? I've never seen one" <Resist violence>
I guess you can either do O and A level science, do a science degree, then a masters and PhD then peer reviewed research and then maybe a little bit of original insight from the shoulders of giants before becoming a Profesor. So much easier though to avoid all the hard work and just make up something about fucking fairies.
Surely if people want to believe that Jesus wants us to be nice to people, that's fairly harmless.
Wasn't the bible supposed to give simpletons (such as myself) an easy to follow moral framework? Parables were a way of illustrating some of the points..
Come on, be fair, how bad is that?
I hated the oppressive environment of catholic school, but I now find the idea of taking lectures from people like Marcus Brigstocke even more appalling. Who is he to offer moral guidance? He's everything he pretends he's not.
Massively privileged. Judgemental, snobbish, never had a proper job. Pokes fun at the lower orders (like Daily Mail and Sun readers) while never ever having had to endure the hardships they face.
Good grief. Why doesn't someone write a book about him?
Anne Widecombe is the only Home Secretary/former Home Secretary to have both:
*Acted to shackle pregnant prisoners with handcuffs and chains when in hospital and when giving birth.
*Acted in pantomime (Snow White and the 7 Dwarves , Orchard Theatre, Dartford.)
Even so her right to free speech must be defended. If she says she is "wounded" by comedy about transubstantiation, then we should consider those wounds seriously. Transubstantiation is when the bread and the wine used in the Eucharist becomes the body and blood of Christ. Literally. That's what some christians believe, including Anne. No kidding.
This is off limits for comedy, because it wounds the pregnant-woman shackler and panto-dame.
Surely shackling their legs when their trying to give birth causes a little- errr- difficulty?
The compassionate and humane answer would be to administer an epidural. that way, not only are they spared pain adn discomfort, but they can't feel their legs and there's no way they'll be able to leg it.
Sometimes just a little lateral thinking could spare politicians all these bad-vibe headlines. Tsk.
I would support giving Anne Widecombe an epidural, after shackling. In office as Home Secretary she did not go into details about which limbs should be shackled. She may have discussed this at the Orchard Theatre, Dartford but I was unable to attend.
Oh Yes, She Did.
The pregnant lady convict asked where the injection goes?
Can't remember the answer, but the audience roared it in unison with cheery gusto.
I wish someone would apply some kind of anaesthesia to Anne Widdicombe's useless gob. Transubstantiation, make it all up as you go along, can't have women priests, have to be celibate because sex is dirty unless it's with a minor, don't question the authority of priests or the Pope claptrap. Is the spare Pope no longer infallible now? Do they have an infallibility handover? Is it a baton, what happens if they drop the bloody thing. What a load of bollocks. It's about as important as someone getting upset because Airfix discontinued the Angel Interceptor at 1/72nd scale (and yes I do fuckingwell know they re-issued it in 2011 because I checked).
It is right to give Him Superglue and enamel paints.
how much fun did they have getting that registered as a business name?
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