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Your Army should go in and start shooting looters.
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Good idea Rikkor. It would help bring unemployment figures down too.
Posted 1 year ago # -
thisisall1word
offlineMemberI say arm everyone who saw combat in WWII and send them in - seriously, there must be plenty of grandads, dads, etc about who would be up for it. Let the golden generation rise again and show us what's what.
Posted 1 year ago # -
waylandsmithy
offlineMemberIt's hard to both shoot looters, and then sign them up for national service.
Posted 1 year ago # -
waylandsmithy
offlineMemberYes. One with plenty of bling trainers: Brantanomo eBay.
Posted 1 year ago # -
I wonder if they'd still think it was fun if you followed one of them home, kicked the shit out of him, smashed all his windows, nicked anything you liked the look of and then set fire to his house.
Posted 1 year ago # -
The All New Jeni B
offlineMemberSounds like a great night out VCG.
Retaliatory vigilante-ism.Posted 1 year ago # -
beau-jolly
offlineMemberI must admit the riots are a bit worrying. Today I concidered closing the front door of my shop when I popped out for a coffee. Then I thought, no. That sort of reaction just plays into the hands of the anarchists.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Corrigan
offlineMemberProbably wouldn't lose much sleep if some looters got shot but unfortunately for Dave and the Bully Boys to be able to order the army and police to shoot people on sight for nicking stuff, Dave'd have to suspend the rule of law and declare himself a dictator. I don't think he'd suit a 'tache.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Corrigan
offlineMemberMaybe people should start a fight-back. The police are allowed to use reasonable (even lethal) force to protect life and property; but so is everyone. You just have to, like the police, be able to justify it. I don't think I'd have the bottle (even if I had a broken one).
Posted 1 year ago # -
waylandsmithy
offlineMemberSounds like the Manchester police have been giving the little darlings a hiding. Nice work, medals all round! I for one would welcome a police state, and a military dictatorship.
Posted 1 year ago # -
rikkor
offlineMemberWayland, you're right, of course. You certainly never heard of anyone complaining under Franco or Mussolini. And such smart uniforms!
In all seriousness, I believe that in the United States the local police and various state National Guard troops would should rioters under similar circumstances. Makes me proud to think of it.
One good thing, I think we will see less "Britain is so wonderfully happy-clappy one society non-violent blind to differences and the US is so awful in comparison" stuff in the near future here.
Posted 1 year ago # -
waylandsmithy
offlineMemberRikkor, agreed! Less forgive-all liberalism. I'm pretty liberal normally, but not where it concerns people taking responsibility for their actions.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Corrigan
offlineMemberI think you're right Rikkor, about our reputation suffering. It won't be accurate though. The riots are bad, no doubt, but they are nothing compared to the LA riots for instance.
The papers in this country are obsessed with crime and very right wing. They skew the perception of crime out of proportion to the facts and so people think it's worse than it is. Compared to some other countries in Europe,but not France Germany etc. the UK is quite violent, but the crime rate in America (accounting for population) dwarfs the UK.
The murder rate in the US is many times that of Britain. If you take a city like Liverpool, for instance, that has a reputation for firearms incidents; it has only a handful of fatal shootings per year. Compare that to a city in America of similar population and similar crime reputation, such as Baltimore, they have a couple of hundred fatal shootings a year, at least.
Posted 1 year ago # -
waylandsmithy
offlineMemberCorrigan, some of the UK papers are right wing, some are left wing. I don't think we have an overall 'media bias', other than the BBC's brand of wishy washy liberal-elite dogma. They're still calling the looting vermin 'protesters', ffs.
But overall, our press is sort of OK. It's at least fairly free.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Corrigan
offlineMemberWayland I agree the TV is pretty unbiased. And the press is free. I suppose its relative to your own political views.
I think it's generally accepted though that Daily Mail, Mail on Sunday, Daily Express, The Sun, The Star, The NOTW (RIP), The Telegraph are pretty right wing with The Times kind of right of center.
And on the left you've got The Guardian,the Observer (pretty liberal) The Indy (left bias but lots of right wing opinion pieces) , The Mirror (Labour bias but hardly liberal)and that's it, I think.
Posted 1 year ago # -
waylandsmithy
offlineMemberCorrigan, I kind of agree. But it's a free market for the papers: people buy what they like. That's a bit sad, but there's at least room in the market for a broad spectrum. As it happens, I read the Guardian and the Telegraph mainly, and the BBC website (and the Daily Mail recently, just for ideas for satire).
The Guardian seems to have lost its way over the last 18 months, it's obsessed with minor interest women's co-operatives in countries I've never heard of. The Telegraph has moved slightly to the left, but that's not saying much at all.
I'm sure the Independent would be right up my street, if it wasn't so mind-boilingly dull to read.
Are Al-Jazeera going to do a newspaper??
Posted 1 year ago # -
Corrigan
offlineMemberWhen I was in Turkey they had Al-Jazeera. it was actually pretty good. They seemed to prioritize the stories according to how much human suffering was involved with each one- sort of utilitarian reporting- totally ridiculous, I know, but kind of made you think.
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