a massive national decision we've all been part of.
A decision you’re trying not to acknowledge makes the end of the UK more likely, so not a benefit for the UK.
the point seems to being argued two ways...one, that it's not an achievement of any note, and one that it's going to be a catastrophe.
You’re misrepresenting Sinnick there, He doesn’t mean that it’s not an achievement of note, just that it hasn’t been constructive.
Farage disrupted the status quo, and forced us into Brexit, yes, but without any rational design, without a care for the consequences, and leaving the rest of us running around to clear up his mess - anyone deserving a gong for Brexit should come from this cohort: the people who made Brexit less of a disaster, plotted a route, saved us from the worst...saved Farage, really, from himself.
Manslaughter, in comparison to murder, is criminal responsibility for the act, but not so much the outcome which was a result of negligence, rather than intent.
Gongs are for a contribution to government; Farage has contributed to the destruction of government and the vacuum of government this left that others had to fill, but his actual contribution to government - making it all work - is, negligent, as to be negligible.
we have all got to get on with it
Same was true when we were in the EU, but instead of making the best of it, Farage sabotaged our success in the EU, and now we still all have to get on with it, but from a remainer point of view this means mitigating it.
but its still a hell of a conflicted position for the leadership of the nation to take.
They have created a conflicting position, our national identity is now a conflicted one. I’m far from alone in identifying more with being a UK remainer than a UK citizen, seeing Brexit as your Brexit not our Brexit, us against them, and I don’t see much healing in giving a gong for the man who pitched us against one another.
You might see it as non-partisan, but I would see it as giving Farage credit for something he hasn’t done, purely because of his political position.
You’re also only looking at partisan qualities of rewarding Farage at the inception, and not the result.
A gong is also a way of saying thank you from everyone; I’m sure Brexiters are thankful, but this is not in the name of half the voters - a Tory majority, but by consolidating their vote when a greater opposition couldn’t is a governing majority not an actual majority - and plenty of Brexiters might think it funny to rub salt in the wound, but that’s what the result would be, whatever the intention at inception and that’s not non-partisan behaviour.
We can't perpetuate a position of being embarrassed at our chosen path, apologetic for it
However you want to dress it up, we’re still divided. Look at this argument. You can’t see the logic behind our point of view, and we can’t see the logic behind yours, when really there’s only one six-letter word separating us here. Why pretend that isn’t the case, just to save face? Remainers - half the population - will perceive an award for Farage as more embarrassment, and something else to apologise for. Albeit not your intention, that is what it would perpetuate, in an attempt to mask, and eradicate that very position
