http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Sun, 19 May 2013 03:56:55 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15342 Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:41:03 +0000 Quaz 15342@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I had the dubious honour of doing some business analaysis (yawn) where the person I was tasked with finding out "what they do" seemed to contradict themselves at every turn. We'd have meetings, I'd write it up, then I'd spot a contriction, then be told something else was the case. Exceptions proved rules, disproved rules, and turned them on their heads. I did manage eventually to produce a number of very busy diagrams about different coloured bits of paper from it (it was really a very simple job that they had managed to turn into a semi random mystical process). </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15284 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:38:49 +0000 happyscot 15284@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Life isnt everything wo-o<br /> Life -------- isn't everything wo-o</p> <p>o</p> <p>0</p> <p>Oh fgod she's put the tatties on </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15262 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:59:20 +0000 PluckyMunky 15262@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Yes, but that's fairly common practice, Mr Rimnir. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15260 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:47:23 +0000 andhrimnir 15260@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>We have a similar custom but without pencils and involving the slapping of knurdles. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15257 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:16:51 +0000 PluckyMunky 15257@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Is that sort of thing done a lot, then? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15256 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:15:15 +0000 QorbeQ 15256@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://biscuit.darke.org.uk/blackadder.jpg"> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15255 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:09:42 +0000 MrChigleysAunt 15255@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>If I remember my Black Adder Goes Forth correctly, wibble is a word you say while you have your underpants on your head and pencils up your nostrils. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15243 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:58:45 +0000 PluckyMunky 15243@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Mr Aunt and Mr Rhimner, I take your points entirely and agree. I think I was looking at it the wrong way round - as the priest said to the choirboy.</p> <p>Wibble is a nice word, Mr Mr. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15210 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:55:42 +0000 simonjmr 15210@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Surrealism is not as strange as you think. But religion is! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15209 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:54:33 +0000 simonjmr 15209@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Wibble </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15176 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:38:47 +0000 jp1885 15176@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>As mud.</p> <p>I feel lost and not a little frightened by all this intellectual cobblers. Besides, I wasn't around in the 50's - though I wish I was, if only for the chance of becoming a beatnik or somesuch. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15170 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:28:03 +0000 andhrimnir 15170@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Logic is a lot stranger than you think.<br /> Exceptions do of course prove rules. It is all about the analysis of a statement proving a rule that is left out(excepted). For example "The sun is above the yardarm, so you may drink". The exception here is "the sun is not above the yardarm" and so the rule is "When the sun is not above the yardarm you may not drink". The exception proves the rule.</p> <p>Clear? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15168 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:09:37 +0000 QorbeQ 15168@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>jp looks like things have held sway over him for way longer than half a century to be honest... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15165 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:59:55 +0000 MrChigleysAunt 15165@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I should perhaps have said that I agree with you 110%! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15161 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:38:32 +0000 MrChigleysAunt 15161@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Oh yes exceptions can prove rules! But I wholeheartedly agree with you that a rule with even one exception cannot be a rule.<br /> You are the exception that proved the rule that life is unremittingly dull. Given that you are an exception, it must be the case that that rule is not in fact a rule. It may be that those experiments in the 50s were flawed in some way.<br /> There, in the course of a morning, we have overturned a scientific belief that had held sway over people like jp1885 for over half a century - and just through the power of our intellects. This is a new renaissance I tell you! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15156 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:18:16 +0000 PluckyMunky 15156@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>*giggle* Quite right, Stunts! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15155 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:16:37 +0000 allmyownstunts 15155@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>'doorway', maybe? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15153 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:03:51 +0000 PluckyMunky 15153@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Sorry, Mr Q! My enquiry was addressed to the wrong person.</p> <p>Mr Aunt, I know that 'prove' means 'test' (rather than prove in the detective sense) but I still hold that you can't have 'exceptions' to test 'rules'. A rule is a once and for all sort of thing, surely? Could you have 5,000 exceptions to test a rule and still call it a rule?</p> <p>As someone once said: 'in the end, either the piano will go through the door, or it won't'. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15151 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:57:51 +0000 MrChigleysAunt 15151@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Ah, but "prove" here means "test". The expression comes from the legal requirement to test gun barrels for safety. It's the job of the London and Birmingham proof houses So,it is quite possible for an exception to prove a rule. Stand down Mr 1885, stand down! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15150 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:52:49 +0000 QorbeQ 15150@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><strike>I didn't know you had a new job jp! Without wishing to sound as eager as I feel, when are you leaving?</strike></p> <p>And now plucky edits his post, making mine look stranger than strange... gah! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15148 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:50:15 +0000 The Paper Ostrich 15148@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Topics on the messageboard are stranger than I think. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15145 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:39:57 +0000 PluckyMunky 15145@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I hope you are well. xxx </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15144 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:34:58 +0000 jp1885 15144@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I stand corrected Plucky. You are to be congratulated on your pedantry sir! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15143 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:28:36 +0000 PluckyMunky 15143@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Ah! Mr 1885, you have fallen into the old trap! Exceptions can't prove rules or they would not be rules! A rule can't have exceptions.</p> <p>Some people are more pedantic than you think, really. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15142 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:23:07 +0000 jp1885 15142@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Nope - life is unremittingly dull, as was officially proved during experiments in the 50's. This makes you the exception that proves the rule Plucky.</p> <p>Qorbeq, as a newbie your brain will be on fire with ideas - long may it continue! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15080 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:28:06 +0000 PluckyMunky 15080@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Yes, after I wrote it, I realised the mistake, Mr Aunt. It is like those American car mirrors that say 'Vehicles behind you may be closer than you think.' How do they know how close you think they are? Similarly, how do I know how strange anyone thinks life is?</p> <p>I like the idea of strange pudding, tho' not so certain about a 'side serving of strange'. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15079 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:26:22 +0000 QorbeQ 15079@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>In a completely strange twist to the topic, I've been a member since 7th April and managed to <strong>start</strong> a rather shocking 257 topics (even more shockingly, mostly subs in the Writers' Room), let alone the replies I've made to others.</p> <p>I'm scaring myself a little with that statistic.</p> <p>Help. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15077 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:06:29 +0000 MrChigleysAunt 15077@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I have to disagree with you on this one because I think life is really, really strange. It's sort of strange with strange on top, with a side serving of strange and with strange pudding to follow. It really is quite strange. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=5534#post-15076 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:43:04 +0000 PluckyMunky 15076@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>. </p>