http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:39:21 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152569 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 23:33:17 +0000 Al OPecia 152569@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Australian humour stuck in the 1970's. Easier to take on Jacintha Saldanha than someone worthy of rigorous attack. Puerile and cowardly. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152564 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 23:13:31 +0000 Yikes 152564@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>New Zealand breakfast DJs are just as bad - some did the wonderful prank of fooling people into thinking their spouse was being unfaithful / had left them.</p> <p>Comedy gold! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152562 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 23:04:25 +0000 The All New Jeni B 152562@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I think there are too many assumptions being made that this nurse '<em>must</em> have been suffering some kind of underlying mental health condition to have done such a desperate thing.</p> <p>I don't know about England, but Scots Criminal law has a principle called 'The Thin Skull' rule, where should person A be attacked by person B, and due to an underlying health issue (heart problems, epilepsy, depression etc), dies as a result of that attack, even if it is not immediately afterwards, then person B will still be criminally responsible for person A's death, as but for the attack, person A would still be alive.</p> <p>I think the same can be applied here. No-one conducting these pranks knows the background or medical history of the person who they are pranking, yet their prank could have far reaching effect.</p> <p>I loathe pranks of any sort, particularly prank calls. They are infantile, and to my mind, a form of bullying, and Michael Barrymore was always particularly guilty of this.</p> <p>I didn't read or hear any of the details about the actual prank, but I did feel sorry at the time for those duped by it.</p> <p>I'm just horrified that it's had such a devastating outcome, and that includes for the two DJs. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152560 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:47:38 +0000 Yikes 152560@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152550 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:54:22 +0000 ianslat 152550@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>If the world's media hadn't latched onto the story and gone on about it endlessly, she probably wouldn't have done what she did. There should be just as much of a backlash against them as the DJs, but instead I'm sure they'll try to take the moral high-ground over it instead. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152549 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:50:19 +0000 Tripod 152549@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Rolf Harris </blockquote></p> <p>I feel for him... and his extra leg... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152538 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:26:30 +0000 dvo4fun 152538@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>And don't forget Rolf Harris </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152536 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:19:25 +0000 Ironduke 152536@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Hang on...they're Australian?</p> <p>Hang the snivelling disrespectful insensitive bastards then. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152535 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:17:38 +0000 Ironduke 152535@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Terrible sadness for the bereaved family, but also for both the Duke and Duchess and the DJs. William and Kate will always have this association at what should be a happy time, and the two DJs have been cheeky and disrepectful, but not really done anything that Jeremy Beadle or AliG haven't done...or made a career out of even.</p> <p>I suspect we have all posted misjudged edgy gags that with hindsight we've thought better of, probably insulted and perhaps embarrassed people but nobody died; in this case a horrendous consequence was triggered and I do feel sorry for the pair of those DJs. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152533 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:47:48 +0000 Tripod 152533@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>I'll defend comedy and satire when it's aimed at appropriate targets... Jeez</p> <p>Fair enough, I suppose, for those who turn out to be guilty. But totally innocent people get caught up too... and their reputations are trashed for ever... Jeez </blockquote></p> <p>Let's shake hands, eh? I don't want to fall out with anyone on NB... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152526 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:36:26 +0000 waylandsmithy 152526@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>ooh! I like guessing games! Is it Margaret Hodge? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152524 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 16:48:12 +0000 Gerontius 152524@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Sanctimonious twittery isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.<br /> Don't pretend you've been 'touched' by it all.<br /> That's just gut wrenching hypocrisy.<br /> You'll have forgotten all about it half way down your second glass of wine.<br /> OK...fill in the blanks<br /> The ladies name is - - - - - -/- - - - - - - --- </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152509 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 15:26:03 +0000 waylandsmithy 152509@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>That's a sensible policy for all DJs, frankly. If they're not topping off nurses, they're noncing up some kids. What's wrong with listening to music without a murderous kiddy fiddler reading the label out? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930&page=2#post-152483 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 13:38:34 +0000 AReader 152483@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Yes of course Wayland and <a href="http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/complaints-flood-into-regulator">the DJs involved should be strung up. It's the only language they understand</a> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152480 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 13:26:27 +0000 Golgo13 152480@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <br /> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152476 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 13:14:31 +0000 waylandsmithy 152476@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Should nurses kill themselves when they've been misled or lied to?</blockquote></p> <p>Actually AReader, when you put it like that, you've completely won me round to your argument. </p> <p>You're right: of course nurses should kill themeselves when they've been lied to. I used to think it was a grey area, but I now realise I was just sitting on the fence.</p> <p>It's the ones who <em>don't</em> kill themselves that really sicken me. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152473 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:56:26 +0000 AReader 152473@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I know it sounds harsh, and I know that a lot of people still hold to the Roman maxim of speaking no ill of the dead, but I'm underwhelmed by the reasoning.</p> <p>If every nurse reacted to misdirection or lies by killing themselves there would be no health service left. Patients and relatives of patients lie all of the time, give partial or misleading responses to questions and generally behave like jerks. Should nurses kill themselves when they've been misled or lied to?</p> <p>What of her husband, her children, her family? Did they deserve this? Because she was fooled by a prank call? Did they think she was a disgrace to them? Unlikely.</p> <p>How was anyone to know she would have this extreme overreaction?</p> <p>There are now steps being made to involve psychologists to deal with post traumatic stress in hospital workers and to spot the signs of PTSD in medical staff especially in A&amp;E.</p> <p>Its also worth pointing out that in a substantial percentage of suicides there are no reasons given by the soon-to-be deceased nor any plausible rationalisation made after the fact. Why did film director Tony Scott kill himself, for example? </p> <p>The natural reaction of people to an unexpected suicide is to blame someone or something when in fact nobody knows what went on in the mind of the person. That search for someone or something to blame, however tenuous the link, appears to be a human frailty that most of us have. That's a reason why tabloid newspapers sell. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152470 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:13:23 +0000 beau-jolly 152470@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Bit harsh AR? While every suicide is a tragedy it is seldom a single event that causes it. I am not suggesting for a moment that the infamy and the tragedy are not linked but just that it is unlikely that it was the sole cause. Of course now everyone will say it was the silly jape that made her "off herself". It probably contributed to push her over the edge.</p> <p>&lt;edit&gt; got distracted. This was a response to AReader </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152467 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:56:05 +0000 waylandsmithy 152467@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Prank calls can be funny: Chris Morris did some hilarious work making foreigners in airports announce complete filth across the tannoy system. </p> <p>But this wasn't an inherently funny idea. Having said that, it would have been impossible to predict that performing a weak prank call would result in someone's death.</p> <p>It's a tragic story all right. None of us know for sure what caused her to take her own life, or what other events or might have influenced it. But it's incredibly sad that it happened. </p> <p>Can't say anyone's to blame, though. It's 'one of those things'. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152466 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:50:40 +0000 weematt 152466@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I think AReader is coming across as a complete cunt.</p> <p>Always hated those pranks played on poor folk trying to do their job, like call centre operators who are in line for discipline if they offend a caller. Easy targets for mindless pranksters. Tragic consequences in this case. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152458 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:24:44 +0000 waylandsmithy 152458@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote> I know this is kind of against the grain, but I can't help feeling that this suicide is the most pathetic, selfish overreaction to a prank ever. I don't particularly like pranks as a spectacle and don't find them amusing most of the time, but did the woman have to off herself in response? </blockquote></p> <p>I kind of think you should edit this, AReader. Otherwise people might accidentally think you're a complete cunt. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152453 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:00:50 +0000 AReader 152453@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I know this is kind of against the grain, but I can't help feeling that this suicide is the most pathetic, selfish overreaction to a prank ever. I don't particularly like pranks as a spectacle and don't find them amusing most of the time, but did the woman have to off herself in response? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152413 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 22:59:24 +0000 Perks 152413@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I'll defend comedy and satire when it's aimed at appropriate targets... Jeez</p> <p>Fair enough, I suppose, for those who turn out to be guilty. But totally innocent people get caught up too... and their reputations are trashed for ever... Jeez </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152409 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:52:07 +0000 Tripod 152409@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>I apologise for my poor grammer</blockquote></p> <p>...poor <em>grammar</em>... Jeez... :-) </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152408 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:47:53 +0000 Perks 152408@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I apologise for my poor grammer. Although I have never been outraged by someone else's poor grammer so maybe I can have that one. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152407 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:25:28 +0000 Tripod 152407@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Would be worse if something had of happened.</blockquote></p> <p>...had <em>have</em> happened... Jeez... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152405 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:10:00 +0000 Perks 152405@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I'll defend comedy and satire when it's aimed at appropriate targets, but I've never enjoyed prank phone calls, because all they're usually making fun of is the poor sap who just happens to be on the other end of the phone...</p> <p><a href="http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52738" rel="nofollow">http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52738</a><br /> I would say falls into the realms of what you dislike tripod. Would be worse if something had of happened.<br /> Or was it an ironic dig at the press?<br /> <a href="http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=49568" rel="nofollow">http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=49568</a><br /> As far as I am aware he has not been found guilty, but if he is, well this post was ok, if not well never mind </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152400 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:05:22 +0000 Carter 152400@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>I'll defend comedy and satire when it's aimed at appropriate targets, but I've never enjoyed prank phone calls, because all they're usually making fun of is the poor sap who just happens to be on the other end of the phone...</blockquote></p> <p>Exactly. Prank calls are kicking down that's why I've never liked them. A friend at uni had a CD of 'hilarious' prank calls made by some DJ or the other and it was just the most souless, unfunny listening. The word prank or stunt in connection with comedy is usually an indication of something that is the opposite of amusing. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152398 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:40:03 +0000 Yikes 152398@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Cripes, my first thought was Carter posted in the wrong room then I realised it was real. </p> <p>Very sad. No doubt a lot of people who laughed their heads off will now be fluffed up bundles of righteous indignation. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52930#post-152395 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:13:14 +0000 riesler 152395@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Even without hindsight I didn't think it was funny. Problem now is going to be with (not very well) hidden agendas. </p>