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Forum » Topic: NEAT-O http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Fri, 24 May 2013 03:48:16 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php Vertically Challenged Giant on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151371 Sat, 01 Dec 2012 09:48:34 +0000 Vertically Challenged Giant 151371@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ And I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing when one item dominates the news, because everybody knows that 90% of subs will be linked to that story and it encourages people to come up with a fresh angle to differentiate their effort from the rest. Rather than just bunging together a couple of popular topics like Ryanair and tramps and hoping for the best for example... I still don't understand why that only made NiB, what more did it need? What? Some actual jokes? Fuck that. Vertically Challenged Giant on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151370 Sat, 01 Dec 2012 09:39:23 +0000 Vertically Challenged Giant 151370@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ Ok, so I'm just jealous because I haven't managed to come up with anything for any of the topics so far. I do have one for episode 4 that I haven't managed to finish yet because I've been a bit busy, have I missed the deadline for that one? Gerontius - the world, in a small way, was probably a better place for that ditch having been dug. And all the better for it having been dug with time, effort and care. And malgor, quite rightly, mentions community. At the end of the day this is a community site and anything that makes it more so is a good thing. Because NB is generally a nice place to be, but in recent times hasn't been quite so nice as it used to be. Midfield Diamond on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151353 Sat, 01 Dec 2012 07:48:31 +0000 Midfield Diamond 151353@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ The other thing about the Neat-O is that it is set and judged by one of us. We do not all find the same things funny and the Neat-O judge is not necessarily looking for material for the FP. Personally, I don't think the Neat-O leads to loads of shit subs on the same subject, a big news story does that. I think the Neat-O often leads to writers taking the theme and going in lots of different directions with it. Long live the Neat-O. malgor on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151335 Sat, 01 Dec 2012 00:33:15 +0000 malgor 151335@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ The Neat-O engenders a sense of community. It provides an opportunity to bounce an idea around and regularly yields one-liners and articles which make the front page.* The basic idea is to write a funny around or referencing the Neat-O phrase or subject. Neat-O submissions fall into two categories: those that work as ‘normal’ comedy and those that only really make sense in the context of the particular Neat-O challenge. There’s nothing to stop an individual posting their Neat-O submission straight into the particular Neat-O thread in the Chat Room, if they wish, rather than clutter up the Writers’ Room. *STOP PRESS: see Uncle Bertie's Mike Tyson FP just gone up. An excellent example of the Neat-O. weematt on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151333 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:29:35 +0000 weematt 151333@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ I'm not here to develop my writing. I just want to jot down any humorous ideas that come into my head and if it annoys some reader then tough. I get the impression much of my input goes unread anyway. If it gets "published" great, that's nice and rewarding. Neat-o brings a competitive edge which is enjoyable and lets me see how I compare with the published regulars so I hope it continues. Neat-o subs should go to the Writer's Room. The Holy Grail of neat-o must be to combine it with a current news item. waylandsmithy on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151324 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:12:01 +0000 waylandsmithy 151324@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ Then they should quit work, Gerontius. And break all their other commitments. It's hardly asking a lot, is it? Gerontius on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151319 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:41:48 +0000 Gerontius 151319@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ That's really kind of you and much appreciated. But I'm reminded of the ditch-digger who works tirelessly from morning to night. But at the end of the day, he's still only dug a ditch. (David Carradine - Kung Fu c1972) Serious point: I realise a lot of people simply haven't got the time to develop stuff. I'm sure they would like to but time and work commitments are against them. waylandsmithy on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151316 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:33:10 +0000 waylandsmithy 151316@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ Gerontius, all your subs are considered and well-developed, but there's a lot of really weak 'this popped into my head 3 seconds ago!' stuff that's distracting to say the least. If people want to produce something decent, they have to put some work in. If everyone put as much as you do in, the board would be a better place. Gerontius on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151313 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:21:46 +0000 Gerontius 151313@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ We are not all FP regulars and it gives us mortals a chance to contribute and hopefully develop our writing. If it encourages someone to have a go then surely it is doing its job? The challenge is obviously to come up with something totally original. OK...so it might be a bit beneath some of the big-hitters to contribute but don't knock it. Many contributors will never make the FP but without them NB couldn't survive. Besides, quite a few efforts have been used on the big page along the way. waylandsmithy on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151312 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:01:56 +0000 waylandsmithy 151312@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ If it does actually encourage people to think and develop an idea, then it's a good thing. But flooding the board with loads of subs on the same subject is a bad thing. I think the biggest problem at the moment is people subbing underdeveloped ideas, or spewing up stuff that's barely coherent. Or is just a really, really shit pun. It's kind of depressing. Maybe we need a Funny-o? Gerontius on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151308 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:41:27 +0000 Gerontius 151308@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ Neat -O Challenge...it's a challenge. Be creative. The whole point of NeatO is to see how many different directions contributors can take it. The world is your oyster VCG...go for it. I was tempted to write something like Mentally Challenged Giant but that's just going to get me into trouble. beau-jolly on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151296 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:38:55 +0000 beau-jolly 151296@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ I won the neat-o but haven't had anything on the FP for.. oooh... well for ever. Give a chap a chance. The other thing is that it is only for a week unlike Savile et al. It does act to mix it up and rather than sameness adds variety. What is this char room of which Charlie speaks? Sounds rather cosy. Perks on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151294 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:19:46 +0000 Perks 151294@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ I like neat-o, but get VCG's point. Maybe a cap of one one liner, one FP and one nib style per person. That way you only sub your best idea and it will be a little more thought out and considered . dvo4fun on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151293 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:18:24 +0000 dvo4fun 151293@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ I think the chat room idea is right charlie. Is there any reason why editor can't harvest stuff from there? charlies_hat on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151291 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:08:55 +0000 charlies_hat 151291@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ I think Neat-O can be welcome relief - when there is a slow news day or week, I think it's quite nice to have a subject to think about. Maybe we should keep neat-o to the char room ? That said, it has led to some decent Nibs and Tickers, maybe even an FP? The Nage on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151287 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:57:05 +0000 The Nage 151287@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ I think it's meant to get the creative juices going by getting folks to think about a random phrase or word or summat. A bit of inspiration when things get dry so to speak. It was created back in the day when we had writers on here. They only subbed when they'd given their stuff a bit of thought, rather than nowadays when a lot of folks just pump out stream of consciousness cobblers. It's just meant as a laugh Verty. You don't haff to take it serious none. Vertically Challenged Giant on "NEAT-O" http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=52555#post-151282 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:12:28 +0000 Vertically Challenged Giant 151282@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ Right, I know NEAT-O is some sort of NB tradition dating back to before my time here, but I don’t really understand its appeal. When one story dominates the news, e.g. Savile, phone hacking, Leveson etc. then we get a flood of subs all on the same subject. People generally seem to agree that this is a bad thing. But NEAT-O is quite popular, despite it actively encouraging a flood of subs on the same subject. I don’t really see the difference between the two situations, but one is seen as being bad and the other good. Am I missing something?