http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Thu, 23 May 2013 12:30:00 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148147 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:16:43 +0000 dvo4fun 148147@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@b-j: Edit &lt;withdrawn through a cowardy fear of legal action&gt; </p> <p>A sensible policy for a sensible site </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148140 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:45:37 +0000 beau-jolly 148140@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Edit &lt;withdrawn through a cowardy fear of legal action&gt; </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148136 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:13:22 +0000 Ironduke 148136@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Yes. I wonder if there possibly might be a PR guru advising millionaire Lord MacAlpine that its NOT a good idea to sue an ex-care home abuse victim for slander? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148133 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:47:44 +0000 beau-jolly 148133@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Did cross my mind ID that the police were to blame.<br /> Poor guy say's "that's the chap". Police say "Ah, thats Lord MacAlpine you know". Chap shits himself. Years later he says it was MacAlpine, sees a picture and says "hang on, that's not the chap". For Flying FS! This is either a massively complicated cover up or an example of absolute bungling baffoonery, or a bit of both. So now the main witness/victim is discredited. Bloody clever ploy by plod if it was intentional, head-slapping f*ing stupidity if not. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148130 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:38:22 +0000 Tripod 148130@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>When I was a magazine staffer we’d get annual reminders about the laws of libel (and other likely legal pitfalls). One thing that’s stayed with me is about trying to avoid libel problems by not naming an individual. If you write instead about ‘a prominent Tory politician of the Thatcher era’ you may attract libel writs from everyone who fits that description! Potentially an expensive mistake... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148125 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:20:34 +0000 Ironduke 148125@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Technically, I wonder who is liable for Lord McAlpine's slander case...is it the police for mis-identifying the abuser's photo that they showed the victim, is it the very unfortunate victim who therefore ended up naming the wrong gentleman, or is it the media who published the allegation.</p> <p>I have no doubt it will be those with the deepest pockets who get sued, but technically is the ultimate responsibility not on the person making the allegation to verify their facts (or does the information provider, here the police, not have a higher obligation to ensure that the images and information they provide is accurate?). </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148117 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:39:15 +0000 Tripod 148117@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote> Do you think JH was getting his knife in prior to having to be on the staff payroll? </blockquote></p> <p>It just sounded weird. How many people get the opportunity to stick the knife into the boss, with 7,000,000 listeners tuning in? And, having been given the opportunity, how many presenters would have taken it with quite such gleeful malice? He didn't pull his punches... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148116 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:27:23 +0000 beau-jolly 148116@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@Tripe. Do you think JH was getting his knife in prior to having to be on the staff payroll? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148079 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:30:51 +0000 sigmund 148079@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>but with the 'twittering classes' all you need is two thumbs<br /> </blockquote><br /> I’m not sure they’ve all got opposable thumbs, Mr. G. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148078 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:46:41 +0000 Yikes 148078@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Could be a ticker Gerry ...</p> <p>'Trial by twitter' goes tits up</p> <p>or something like that .. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148077 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:41:42 +0000 Tripod 148077@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I just listened to to Today on Radio 4. Very surreal... as John Humphreys gave the BBC's DG, George Entwistle, a merciless grilling, plus a list of his many apparent shortcomings as DG. Entwhistle sounded like a man out of his depth. Unlucky, I suppose, to have taken the job at the exact moment that a cartload of shit hit a very big fan... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148075 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:21:57 +0000 weematt 148075@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I can reveal that the prominent Tory is one with the large bulge in his trousers. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148074 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:18:54 +0000 Gerontius 148074@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>at one time we had the 'chattering classes'...at least you had to have some sort of informed, educated opinion to be part of that<br /> but with the 'twittering classes' all you need is two thumbs </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148071 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:08:13 +0000 sigmund 148071@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Quite the most unpleasant aspect of this is the way that the twitterati seem to equate gay with paedophile, as long as the gay is Tory. Shameful and Neanderthal. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-148063 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 07:21:00 +0000 Gerontius 148063@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>well that didn't take long to go tits up.<br /> the first person to be accused in the media witch-hunt is found to be very innocent<br /> lots of humble pie, back-pedalling and law suits to follow.<br /> looks like all this dumbing down on TV applies to the editors, producers and reporters too </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233&page=2#post-147980 Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:35:01 +0000 Gerontius 147980@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>The usual suspects will have shit thrown at them in order to create a smokescreen and deflect the finger pointing.<br /> But don't be too surprised if the majority of guilty turn out to be 'respectable' family men and women.<br /> A hard truth to swallow and not one that will sit easy in the sitting rooms up and down the UK<br /> The way to stop the mud slinging is to take a member of Joe Public to court and put them through the libel wringer.<br /> A few £20,000 fines for damages will soon stop the vicious sniping. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147972 Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:49:38 +0000 beau-jolly 147972@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Watching telly last night I couldn't be arsed to turn over so saw a bit of Don Portillo's railway journeys. Not in any way connected to this thread but I was amused that he is now shown slipping quietly into Europe. </p> <p>PETER MANDLESON hasn't been named anywhere yet. Just because he is gay and a bit seedy looking does not mean he is a criminal. That, I think, was what the PM was getting at. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147687 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:35:40 +0000 antharrison 147687@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I probably know the answer to the question, but cannot reveal it. I'm so sure that I would bet my house on it. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147531 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:02:56 +0000 Quaz 147531@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@Nowhere</p> <p>Five Alive! Sounds like you know a thing or two.</p> <p>But yes, Best not to repeat any names<br /> a) For fear of prosecution for naming names<br /> b) Because even MPs have been warned to avoid using parliamentary privilege to do so because it could prejudice a prosecution.<br /> c) Some of the speculation on the tw*tterspher could just be wildly unsubstantiated rumour.</p> <p>These investigations are best left to the Police, like Hillsborough...ok, left to the govt. like the Waterhouse inquiry...Ok, left to Judge Dredd. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147527 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:26:53 +0000 Nowherefast 147527@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@nickb</p> <p>I could give chapter and verse on some aspects of that episode having got the call from his (now ex) wife at half 7 on a xmas eve morning just after the plod turned up, arrested the bloke and took away his computer.. but discretion and consideration for the wife in this instance incline me to not go into details. The stuff I do know, although I believe it to be true, is essentially unsupported here-say from an evidential point of view so revealing it serves no purpose beyond gossip. I just used the event to illustrate that, yeah, I believe there're some major double standards in operation in this country regarding the extent to which justice is dispensed and individuals are subject to the law. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147518 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:09:36 +0000 Squudge 147518@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>a lot of momentum on this, so the surviving 'grandee' that "cannot be named for legal reasons" is probably packing a bag. No way this is getting swept under the very expensive carpet now. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147517 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:05:40 +0000 waylandsmithy 147517@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Elan Jones suggested in parliament today that one of the alleged abusers is a 'sitting lord'. Morrison is dead, though. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147516 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:01:07 +0000 Squudge 147516@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Sir Peter Morrison just got named on C4 news (lead item)</p> <p>now online here: <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-eyewitness-saw-thatcher-aide-take-boys-to-abuse">C4 abuse outing</a> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147515 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 18:46:43 +0000 waylandsmithy 147515@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>It could be the biggest shit-fight the country has seen for decades. This wiki page is about a similar enquiry in Belgium in the 90s, which apparently left the nation feeling deeply betrayed, angry and trusting no-one in authority:</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux">Marc Dutroux</a></p> <p>I fear we're barely at the tip of the iceberg. Probably best not to repeat the rumours on Twitter. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147511 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 18:20:54 +0000 nickb 147511@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>...also I recomend NOBODY LOOKS ON TWITTER for any answers. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147509 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 18:18:38 +0000 nickb 147509@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Nowhere tell us more about your colourful life and interesting connections </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147507 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 18:12:19 +0000 Nowherefast 147507@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@beau-jolly</p> <p>Unfortunately to cloud the credibility of allegations the hand of icke has been at work in bringing some of these names out into the open<br /> <a href="http://jasonecooper.wordpress.com/2012/11/02/lord-mcalpine-worse-than-jimmy-saville-david-icke-called-it/">(Sample here)</a></p> <p>Here's a curious thing tho, that does give some degree of credibility to the allegations of systematic protection of these creeps. Although he isn't a politician I am personally aware of a 'connected' individual who was caught by Operation Ore. When it came to court the evidence against him had been conveniently mislaid by the messr's plod.</p> <p>Sooo.. having witnessed much of the above incident unfold from close up I have to recognise that even the febrile ravings and naming of (allegedly) culpable individuals made by loony dave may have some substance. If they do, and this thing goes as deep into the network of the great and the good as is being suggested, then I dare say the dead and a few 2nd or 3rd tier senior players will be outed, but the ones at the very top.. I'll honestly be extremely suprised if we ever find out who they are. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147499 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:50:37 +0000 beau-jolly 147499@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>That doesn't work does it? Bugger! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147496 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:41:26 +0000 Tripod 147496@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Do I get points for naming Ted Heath above? </blockquote></p> <p>On current showing it could be three months... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=51233#post-147494 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:36:45 +0000 beau-jolly 147494@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>The 2nd link reads uneasily like David Ike's. While shockingly believable, substituting <em>Lizard </em>for <em>Paeodeophile </em>makes me uncomfortable as to its varacity. If only a bit is true its pretty bloody damning and quite depressing. I'd like to say "How very differnt to the life of our dear queen" except I'm not too sure about her now. </p> <p>Do I get points for naming <strong>EDIT </strong>above? </p>