http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Wed, 22 May 2013 08:53:09 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003&page=2#post-129313 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:38:47 +0000 Gerontius 129313@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Hurrah<br /> Scoop<br /> Another NewsBiscuit first<br /> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18777544" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18777544</a><br /> Good work medici </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003&page=2#post-129079 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 20:32:30 +0000 Ironduke 129079@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Ynysol anhyddysg Cynraeg ynfytyn </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003&page=2#post-129010 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 11:16:25 +0000 Gerontius 129010@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Q : How many Welsh people does it take to change a lightbulb?<br /> A : Don't know...they refuse to do it until they get the instructions written in Welsh </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-129003 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 10:56:33 +0000 Thor 129003@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I don’t know how you can criticise my shooting, I’ve never missed a golfer yet. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128970 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 21:42:04 +0000 FlashArry 128970@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Antagonise Thor a bit more, Scroat - perhaps the near-miss will take out those Henley tossers ? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128964 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:44:54 +0000 Scroat 128964@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>There's lovely.</p> <p>And Thor, just because you're a God, doesn't mean you're talking out of your bum crack. Smite me if you can, but history shows you're a pretty shit shot. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128962 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:32:40 +0000 Ironduke 128962@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>no way m8, our english is here 4eva. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128961 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 18:27:06 +0000 Thor 128961@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>"Once they've gone, they have gone forever.”</p> <p>As will English go, in it’s time. Chaucer’s English is incomprehensible to most of us; everything is transient. Culture is, by and large, ephemeral. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128952 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:38:31 +0000 Ironduke 128952@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Not forgetting southern Argentina.</p> <p>So this is Patagonia then, isn't it? Tidy. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128950 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:36:51 +0000 The All New Jeni B 128950@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>My maiden-name was Evans, despite the Welsh link being tenuous at best, but pride ourselves on our complete inability to do a convincing Welsh accent.</p> <p>Clearly, whichever ancestor of ours left the valleys went via Hyderabad, taking in Kingston, Jamaica, and having a stopover in Galway before making it to Dundee. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128949 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:35:41 +0000 Ironduke 128949@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Windsor Davies and the punkah-wallahs in 'It ain't Half Hot Mum'...just who was parodying who there? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128948 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:34:03 +0000 Scroat 128948@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Llanphairwinggerrygoodnessgraciousme. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128946 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:29:45 +0000 Ironduke 128946@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>We always shout 'Gwasanethau' when driving past a services, in our very finest comedy Welsh accents, which always end up borderline-Lahore. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128935 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 15:05:16 +0000 bonjonelson 128935@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>There's a guy in Wales called Araf who obviously drives too fast. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128934 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:56:58 +0000 waylandsmithy 128934@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Scroat, Cornish had gone, but then a load of awkward, bloody-minded scholarly types decided to force it back to make some point about being 'different' and 'clever'.</p> <p>Did the English build the Babel Tower for nothing? Was Brunel not cheered by the welsh, when he freed them from the shackles of a language with only nine words in it? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128928 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:19:49 +0000 Gerontius 128928@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>To be fair, there's not a day goes by when I don't rue the passing of Ingvaenic<br /> Use it or lose it, that's what I say </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128927 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:00:55 +0000 Scroat 128927@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>English is obviously the lingua franca (which as a term, is a joke) but as language us such an integral part of culture, Welsh, Gaelic, Cornish etc. should all be encouraged. Once they've gone, they have gone forever.</p> <p>Also important not to confuse the numbers of Welsh speakers with the geographical spread of the language.</p> <p>Have a thing about Gaelic - what's spoken never seems to bear any relation to the way it's written. A bit of a worry that one. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128909 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 10:20:57 +0000 JohnA 128909@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Welsh is a beautiful language, if you can get to learn it (a bit, as I did).</p> <p>No, they're not setting anagrams on road signs.</p> <p>I think the reason the signs (and documents) are bilingual is that they are being nice to the English, despite the facts of history that we clearly don't deserve it.</p> <p>In Welsh there is no 'v' in the alphabet so that value is given to "f" and for the English "f" the Welsh spell it "ff".</p> <p>Also "w" is a vowel and pronounced "oo"</p> <p>Cymru am byth! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128899 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 09:01:25 +0000 Ironduke 128899@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Thor, Wayland...you guys need to talk to each other. Its really simple to see whats happened here.</p> <p>The Welsh people running Waylands study found that c. 25% of people in Wales spoke Welsh, and could answer their questions.</p> <p>The English people running Thor's study found that c. 25% of people became so distressed at their illiteracy that when questioned they could only communicate in strangled, gurgling, nonsensical guttural wails of distress. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128888 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 08:13:53 +0000 Clementine 128888@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>The significance of apparel cannot be ignored in today's fast moving life. The way one presents oneself physically has a great influence on the way that person is accepted to some extent but not wholly. There is a lot of importance attached to the kind of clothes that we wear on our daily life. This is when apparel companies like Abercrombie Fitch come in. Abercrombie Fitch in <strong><a href="http://www.abercrombie-andfitchuk.co.uk/">Abercrombie And Fitch UK</a></strong> has been around for more than 100 years now. It was started in 1892 and has been producing apparel for men, women and kids. Abercrombie is one of the leading names in the casual wear industry. Its specialties in men's collection include Abercrombie hoodies, Abercrombie shorts, Abercrombie t-shirts, Abercrombie Polos, etc.</p> <p>The company has come a long way <strong><a href="http://www.abercrombie-andfitchuk.co.uk/">http://www.abercrombie-andfitchuk.co.uk</a></strong> since 1892 and today is leading the apparel and fashion industry now. The company has specialized in the category of casual luxury brand of apparel. The most recognized products include Abercrombie hoodies, Abercrombie shorts, Abercrombie t-shirts, Abercrombie polos, etc in Hollister Outlet.</p> <p>The apparel range at <strong><a href="http://www.abercrombie-andfitchuk.co.uk/">Abercrombie And Fitch Sale</a></strong> for men includes, Abercrombie t-shirts, Abercrombie hoodies, Af shorts, Abercrombie sweaters, Abercrombie sweat pants, Abercrombie jeans and cologne. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128887 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 07:58:59 +0000 Thor 128887@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Amazingly, it seems 25% of them can’t read in any language, presumably because all the clever ones move to England the first chance they get:<br /> <a href="http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2010/10/11/25-of-people-in-wales-still-illiterate-55578-27446591/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2010/10/11/25-of-people-in-wales-still-illiterate-55578-27446591/</a><br /> Explains a lot. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128870 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 00:35:41 +0000 The All New Jeni B 128870@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Id, I think you've just found the solution to the problems of immigration.</p> <p>If we insist that all immigrants to the UK are required by law to master not just English, but Welsh, Gaelic, Irish, and that weird Cornwall thing, then immigration would fall away to, well, not much very quickly. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128845 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:09:59 +0000 Ironduke 128845@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>and as for educating children in Welsh language schools...why rear them with a mother tongue that restricts their circle of understanding to 500,000 people when our world is shrinking and wider communication is becoming so much more important? By all means offer it as a novelty topic, or evening classes for adults interested to keep it alive...but are any of those children actually going to be better off fluent in Welsh rather than Spanish or French?<br /> At one stage we were looking to relocate and would have strongly considered Wales if it wasn't for our children having to learn Welsh at school...I wonder how many other immigrants Wales is losing out on because of their blinkered language policy? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128843 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:03:58 +0000 Ironduke 128843@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I love the desperation to have a Welsh version of modern terms / inventions.</p> <p>Computer being 'compiwtor' for instance. No attempt to replicate the root derivation- the translation of 'compute' is 'cyfrif', so you might reasonably expect 'cyfrifiadur' as the general term for 'computer'...but instead they just change a letter or two to make it look a bit Welsh and go with the word that sounds the same. Why bother? The English language doesn't feel belittled by adopting 'savoir-faire' or 'carpe diem', so why can't Welsh either fully and properly translate or just borrow and adopt without fiddling? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128824 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 14:16:20 +0000 beau-jolly 128824@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>To be fair, no-one is going to actually read the Welsh bit though are they? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128812 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 13:10:21 +0000 medici2471 128812@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>BJ - yes, just read the English bits, but I am concerned that the Welsh bits may be along the lines of </p> <p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7702913.stm">this</a> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128809 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:43:28 +0000 beau-jolly 128809@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@Medic. Presumably you will only wade through the English bits in which case it is the same size. How will you be able to tell if the Welsh document says the same thing or whether it is a load of complete bobbins?</p> <p>@Wayland: Are all the road signs near the yoghurt factory still in Polish?</p> <p>@any one interested. There's a golf club just over the border near Wrexham. The sign says "Golf" underneath which, in case the Welsh can't understand, is written "Golff". </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128803 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:59:15 +0000 bonjonelson 128803@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>They welsh sold their excess vowels to Hawaii in the 18th century. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128801 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:55:46 +0000 dvo4fun 128801@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Do they suffer from more airborn diseases? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=45003#post-128798 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:47:14 +0000 waylandsmithy 128798@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/multilingual/welsh.shtml">welsh speakers</a></p> <p>Only about a fifth of those living in Wales can speak welsh, whereas nigh-on 100% can speak english. </p> <p>That does make me wonder why they bother making programmes in Welsh, it seems rather bloody-minded.</p> <p>We occasionally have roadsigns with welsh splattered all over them cropping up in Cheshire. Completely bloody useless, and harder to spot the important words quickly. </p>