http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Sat, 18 May 2013 15:43:18 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125682 Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:44:05 +0000 newsbiscuit editorial team 125682@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>There would seem to be lots of potential in the idea of Ofsted inspectors copying their reports from the internet, just as students are often accused of doing. Perhaps the inspectors have also got their parents to help them write their reports, and maybe there is a sense that writing inspection reports has got easier over time and standards are declining.</p> <p>Would weematt or anyone else like to throw in some ideas and have another go at this? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125643 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:11:37 +0000 weematt 125643@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I believe it is stating the obvious to say that the sub was a bit obvious. It was obviously obvious as was plain to see. I think the humour is not in the sub itself. The sub was intended to reflect the sad humour in the real life indefensible behaviour of Ofsted,their contractors and sponsors; unprofessional behaviour whilst criticising the professionalism of a couple of schools and the staff who operate them. A wry grin is about all I could expect.</p> <p>On a point of order the BBC should have been reporting on COPY and paste. CUT and paste would leave gaping holes in the original. What a mess the internet would be in if it really was cut and paste. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125636 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:08:26 +0000 waylandsmithy 125636@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>The headline is basically the BBC one. I think it needs more of a twist and to be a bit less obvious. Potentially funny. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125634 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:04:00 +0000 FlashArry 125634@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Makes a change from the "PUT NAME HERE has yet again belied his potential and needs to apply himself" that plagued me at school, university, work, relationship councellors etc </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125633 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:57:48 +0000 weematt 125633@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I believe PUT NAME HERE is a very bright member of the forum. He/She always tries very hard and has earned all the success he/she has achieved to date. PUT NAME HERE contributes well to the forum and with slightly more effort can be a five star FP regular. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125625 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:34:39 +0000 The All New Jeni B 125625@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@dvo - very!!! Everything submitted is run through a plagiarism checker. If more than a certain percentage is flagged up, then the student is hauled in for questioning.</p> <p>Has happened to number of students on my course, yet the irony of law students being punished for plagiarism escapes them... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125609 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:44:01 +0000 Duff 125609@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Agree about the idea being strong here but as others suggest the sub could be stronger. Still made me laugh though. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125608 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:33:12 +0000 dvo4fun 125608@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>But how tough is your Uni Jeni? </p> <p>At my own alma mater rumour was as follows. Student (A) had computer failure and borrowed one from Student (B) over the weekend before assignment due in. Much to joy of Student (B) found assignment already completed by Student (A) nestling in the memory. </p> <p>Quick change of name and perhaps another one or two fine details&gt; save as &gt; ctrl/P [three copies &gt; and staple up. Hey presto! Not booted out. May still be working as a social worker </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125591 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:07:37 +0000 The All New Jeni B 125591@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I actually thought that it was going to be a straight 'cut and paste' job of the original BBC article.<br /> Which would have been what I'd have done and claimed showed 'creativity'...</p> <p>Like the idea, but agree the body is a little weaker than I was expecting. All valid points though regarding there being only so many ways to write the same basic thing.</p> <p>Which is the argument I use when accused of plagiarism at Uni... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125575 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 08:23:44 +0000 weematt 125575@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@dvo4fun: I used to 'quality check' other colleague's reports as part of my work. It takes increasingly greater effort, commitment and sometimes sheer bloody mindedness to come up with new ways to say essentially the same thing but it always struck me as laziness when a section about Mr Fred Bloggs' particular circumstances appeared unannounced in the middle of a report about Mrs Josephine Soa</p> <p>(sorry I never could resist the obvious) </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125573 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 07:19:14 +0000 dvo4fun 125573@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@weematt: No harm in recycling well constructed comments if they are appropriate.True. </p> <p>I used to 'quality check' other colleague's reports as part of my work. It takes increasingly greater effort, commitment and sometimes sheer bloody mindedness to come up with new ways to say essentially the same thing but it always struck me as laziness when a section about Mr Fred Bloggs' particular circumstances appeared unannounced in the middle of a report about Mrs Josephine Soa </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125570 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 05:51:25 +0000 Golgo13 125570@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Like it. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125567 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 04:44:13 +0000 weematt 125567@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Yes the sub isn't great. It has that "cut &amp; paste" from something not very funny feel.<br /> I would defend the use of cut &amp; paste where multiple reports are being created as long as it is done with the brain in gear. No harm in recycling well constructed comments if they are appropriate. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125561 Sun, 10 Jun 2012 02:55:39 +0000 Sinnick 125561@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>There's something to this title, though I have to say I don't like the body of the work; hence only 4*.</p> <p>As a parent &amp; governor, I've read several Ofsted reports, and there's certainly a feel of "copied from the internet" about their style. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=43862#post-125455 Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:03:44 +0000 weematt 125455@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Ofsted have denied the use of “cut and paste“ in recent school inspection reports. Almost identical wording is present in two school inspection reports.</p> <p>In a statement released by Ofsted it said that<br /> 'Ofsted admits to certain similarities in the wording but believes that this is becoz the best possible wording woz chosen initially and woz impossible to improve upon.'</p> <p>In a statement released by the head of PR for Tribal, the company employed by Ofsted to carry out the inspections, it said that<br /> 'Tribal admits to certain similarities in the wording but believes that this is becoz the best possible wording woz chosen initially and woz impossible to improve upon.'</p> <p>Our reporter brought the similarity in these two statements to the attention of the Secretary of State for Education. In his letter of reply the Rt. Hon. Michael Gove said<br /> 'The Department of Education recognises certain similarities in the wording but believes that this is becoz the best possible wording woz chosen initially and woz impossible to improve upon.' </p>