http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:43:52 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595&page=2#post-119226 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 03:53:29 +0000 Textbook 119226@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>He is insane. Despite it being a bit worrying to suggest that what he did is something a calm, rational person might do with clear, sympathetic motives, that was logically buildings towards a criminal end.... no, that's it I'm afraid, you can't suggest that.</p> <p>And this is why you need the death penalty. Prison should be about recuperation and recovery. But you can't recover from killing nigh 80 children. He's done. Forever. So kill him. If that precluded the possibility that he might one day express sincere remorse, I really wouldn't give a shit. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595&page=2#post-119169 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:42:20 +0000 shitsu_tonka 119169@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>that sort of proves a point to anyone being a fucking dick that even though their being a dick, and everyone knows it, that we're not going to be dicks back at them.</blockquote></p> <p>That's brilliant. Sincerely. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595&page=2#post-119168 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:38:38 +0000 thisisall1word 119168@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>One issue with declaring him insane is that he doesn't appear to be insane to mosy/many. He has come to (the wrong) different conclusions to a set of points/questions/socail stimuli than the great majority of people.</p> <p>I do not believe he should be tried because of his beliefs, which are wrong, stupid, incoherent and racist.<br /> I believe he should be tried because he killed dozens of innocent people, and sought to kill many more.<br /> I am not sure that we need to develop in depth any theories as to why he committed these acts or give any more airtime from the man and media over the 'why' of the whole thing *at this time*...</p> <p>After he has been found guilty, thrown into some jail for the rest of his life and left there, then in might be appropriate for people to make some sense of this. Current attention seems far too sensationalist and giving this nasty little person some sort of fucked up reward.</p> <p>He is not insane, he deserves a fair trial and that trial needs to be seen as fair - especially to other far right fucktards who are considering moving that bit much further to the far right... that sort of proves a point to anyone being a fucking dick that even though their being a dick, and everyone knows it, that we're not going to be dicks back at them.</p> <p>Personally I'd like it if he tried to kill himself and then the police cut him down just in time for the end of his trial. Then he goes to jail a broken, wimpering wreak and contracts cat-aids somehow. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595&page=2#post-119163 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:11:19 +0000 Ironduke 119163@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>The difficulty with declaring him insane rather than have a proper trial is it blurs the boundary between insane (barking at the moon) and evil psychopath (consciously acting in an evil way).</p> <p>If you start to define insanity as 'committing an evil act' and avoid trial, then a criminal justice system unravels as once 'someone' says you did it, without trial, then you are therefore insane, banged up, and will never get a trial.</p> <p>However, whilst all that is very purist and moral, I am a pragmatist...so skip all the human rights stuff and fast-track him to lonely agony and torment, much exposed to cold concrete and other peoples faeces. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595&page=2#post-119082 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:07:42 +0000 shitsu_tonka 119082@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Oxbridge, you summed Sickipedia up - quickest and sickest. The problem with that kind of caper is that it's never funny because decent mirth requires a bit of thought. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595&page=2#post-119081 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:06:23 +0000 cinquecento 119081@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>let's hope that Bono doesn't do a charity tribute version of Norwegian Wood </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-119080 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:03:34 +0000 Scronnyglonkle 119080@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I hate to say it made me laugh bonjo, I am fighting the urge not to use a Britvic pun, as I am a better person than that (just) </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-119060 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:06:37 +0000 bonjonelson 119060@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I don't think it's possible to make a funny joke about this subject, I don't think it will ever be.</p> <p>On an unrelated note, I heard that Norway's Olympic swimming team is stronger than ever. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-119044 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:32:54 +0000 Yikes 119044@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>first ever look at sickipedia - probably won't bookmark the site .. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-119034 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:11:49 +0000 Oxbridge 119034@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I looked and Sickipedia only has 5 or 6 jokes on the subject, all unfunny and forced. Some of the denizens there take huge pride in being both quickest and sickest in response to any tragedy, but not this time. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-119011 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:51:49 +0000 shitsu_tonka 119011@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>If he's declared sane then he can change. If he's mad then his condition could improve with treatment. One of the things I most like about being a human is that when it comes to our behaviour you can never say never. But if he did sincerely express remorse would anyone believe it? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118999 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:36:36 +0000 The All New Jeni B 118999@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I'm not generally a proponent of brutality, but anyone else hope that Norway has a "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" type of State Mental Institution?</p> <p>I think the only way this guy can be 'cured' of his beliefs is by full on Lobotomy... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118996 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:30:19 +0000 shitsu_tonka 118996@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Could they not have had him declared insane and then locked away without getting the worldwide publicity he craves? </p> <p>On the gag front I think that anything, absolutely anything, can be funny. Problem is the darker the subject matter the worse the jokes tend to be. I've not looked but I bet Sickopedia is teeming with Breivik stuff and that not one single entry is in any way amusing. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118980 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:01:27 +0000 Yikes 118980@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I want the opposite of what Breivik wants - he is hoping to prove he is sane so I guess I hope he doesn't get what he wants. Not sure of the exact nature of the legal system in Norway but in some countries the looney bin can guarantee someone is locked up for ever whereas even a "life sentence" has a release date .. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118977 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:55:53 +0000 Textbook 118977@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>The truth of the matter is that he's insane and the system knows it. The trial is a concession to public outcry. He shouldn't be having one at all, just the populace feels if he disappears to the funny farm forever and that's it, they haven't got their pound of flesh. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118959 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:04:04 +0000 MADJEZ 118959@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Agree on the publicity front, I'm sure if they just didn't televise it he would have much less of a soapbox and hopefully there'd be better factual reporting. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118940 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:35:11 +0000 Yikes 118940@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>what? delete "boy" and substitute "fat old lady" and you can offend 3 more groups ... though looks like FP photo has got there first! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118935 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:12:04 +0000 Textbook 118935@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I don't think there is any such thing as a subject which is too dark to joke about. However, that doesn't mean all jokes about any subject are funny.</p> <p>What did the deaf, dumb, paraplegic, Down's Syndrome boy with with terminal cancer get on Christmas Day?</p> <p>Raped. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118911 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:58:35 +0000 Vertically Challenged Giant 118911@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Completely agree wayland. His testimony is expected to last 5 days, and the trial 10 weeks. That's 5 days of him having a worldwide audience for whatever he wants to say, and 10 weeks of a media circus.</p> <p>They're not broadcasting his testimony so as not to give him the publicity he craves, but every media outlet is reporting it afterwards. So what's the difference? Either broadcast it or do a proper job of ignoring him. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118909 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:56:30 +0000 Ironduke 118909@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Hmmm. Its at times like this that the old free speech 'I do not agree with what you say but will defend your right to say it' wears a little thin.</p> <p>Thing is, there IS a public interest - people do want to know more about him and what beliefs led him to his actions; as seen from the discussion on his online gaming (world of Warcraft) there are conceivably lessons to be learnt from his history (a year playing a role-play game full-time?!).</p> <p>However, as Smithy says...anyone who wants a pulpit to preach from now knows what to do, don't they? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118902 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:08:06 +0000 Scroat 118902@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I was a bit pissed off that he'd been allowed to tell the court about his "politics." Didn't seem right somehow. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118900 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:48:58 +0000 waylandsmithy 118900@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Does anyone else think he's getting just a bit too much publicity? He's admitted to killing dozens of innocent people, many of them children. Normally I'm really careful about subjudice, but I don't think there's a person on the planet who thinks he's innocent.</p> <p>So why are we having an in-depth analysis of the man, and the trial? It's exactly what he wants. There's no defence at all for his actions, surely it's best to wait until the trial is complete, and just quietly report the result?</p> <p>All this publicity could quite easily encourage another psycho/sociopath to do something terrible. Does the media go too far in these cases? Is it right to keep hammering a story, just because it gets a lot of hits/sells a lot of papers?</p> <p>I was particularly disgusted to see his stupid bloody salute on the front page of so many papers, and analysed by the BBC. Don't give him the publicity, it's exactly what he craves! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118883 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:38:48 +0000 MADJEZ 118883@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Damn BBC nicking my ideas again.</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17739105">What's behind Breivik salute</a> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118730 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:12:30 +0000 The All New Jeni B 118730@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Let's hope you're right b-j. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118728 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:08:03 +0000 bonjonelson 118728@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>When the reality hits him that all he has done is brought the people of Norway, of all races and cultures, closer together, I think that will cut the most. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118723 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:36:15 +0000 Ironduke 118723@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I like to think as he'd been banned from speaking, in a desperate plea for help he was demonstrating what the bigger boys were doing to him in prison.</p> <p>Hourly, with a sandpaper glove dipped in crushed salt and vinegar crisps. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118698 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:36:46 +0000 The All New Jeni B 118698@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>He didn't think that one through really, did he... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118693 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:49:50 +0000 MADJEZ 118693@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Don't waste your breath it'll get ignored anyway !</p> <p>Had to have a pop at the nutcase after the blanket coverage of him 'giving the court a fascist salute' .. er I'll think you'll find..</p> <p><a href="http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41600">Dim-witted racist Anders Breivik gives Black-Power salute to court.</a> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118690 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:44:11 +0000 Scronnyglonkle 118690@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I personally think if the humour is directed at belittling the crazed idoiot Brevik and his beliefs? then he is fair game, the victims are a deffinate no no </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=41595#post-118688 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:33:20 +0000 The All New Jeni B 118688@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I think we all have our limits.</p> <p>Maddie McCann's situation straddles that limit for me, but only because I know that the attitude of many would have differed dramatically had she not been the daughter of very middle-class parents.</p> <p>Brevik, that's a step too far for me. It's his attitude that's most disturbing.<br /> Part of me thinks he's properly mental, yet another part wants him to be found sane and fit to stand trial. This is a man who will never suffer remorse, as he clearly believes his actions to have been justified. Tbh, the sight of him sends uneasy shivers down my spine.</p> <p>But, every one has different things they consider off limits, and this argument will rage on for eternity. </p>