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			<title>Oxbridge on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138826</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Oxbridge</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Anyone who thinks there's nothing but mutual back slapping among established writers should look at Golgo's various dissections of my stuff at the top of this thread. It cuts both ways. Which may go some way to explaining the state of Rikkor's ass.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As to newcomers being effectively locked out until they earn their corn, it ain't so. Whatever amuses the editor of the day is what gets used and if your stuff is good enough it will get chosen. Alternatively, I suppose we could just give everyone a go and use 'Back up your brain but not now' tomorrow?
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			<title>wallster on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138823</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>wallster</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I've been here 4 years and I still haven't learned how to write consistently well. Stuff I think is super smashing gets ignored and stuff I write that I think is pantaloons gets Eff Peed.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There's no accounting for taste. Unless you do the books for Michel Roux.
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			<title>button on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138751</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>button</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;VCG is right. Its worth looking at the guidelines for writers, reading what's on the FP every day to get a hang of what works for the site, and working at your contributions, rather than posting whatever comes into your head then blaming everyone else or claiming its a conspiracy.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I agree with John and Charlie about the tags, not sure what purpose they serve other than keeping us updated on the status of Rikkors ass, which to be honest never seems to get any better.
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			<title>rikkor on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138718</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rikkor</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;They may have been referring to the Prince of Wales.
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			<title>charlies_hat on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138700</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>charlies_hat</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;@JohnA - You're bang on about the tagging, what does it exist for ?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I got a &#34;Charlies a twat&#34; tag the other day, tagging is the only way me and Mrs Charlie communicate now.
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			<title>rikkor on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138686</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rikkor</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;My ass hurts.
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			<title>Vertically Challenged Giant on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138567</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Vertically Challenged Giant</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;This says quite a lot given that a year ago wayland felt there was a bias towards certain names, and that accusation has now come up again, with wayland on the other end of it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Every time this debate comes up somebody will say &#34;we were all new once&#34;, and I think this illustrates that quite nicely. You have to be new, work on your style, learn which ideas are likely to get picked up, which are likely to be ignored and polish your writing. Then, when you've been here a while, you might be lucky enough for people to claim that you get unmerited FPs.
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			<title>bonjonelson on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138547</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bonjonelson</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Just to let you know, I haven't quit, I've just been on the Isle of Wight for three days and couldn't access the site via ceefax.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>rikkor on "good bye, I quit"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rikkor</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Well.  I have a rare disease and the posts here are the only hope I have for survival.  So, I veto that idea.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>JohnA on "good bye, I quit"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>JohnA</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Oh and I'd like to recommend the tagging system be turned off.
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			<title>JohnA on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138375</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>JohnA</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;For the record, I never threatened to leave. But I did protest that a group dynamic had developed where known posters were backslapped and cheered for work that, had it been written by someone else or an unknown writer, would have been ignored. And the bloody thing was promoted to the Front Page.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This is galling for the rest of us who try to get funnier and more focussed because we either get a) ignored b) ignored but with 1 star or c) ignored but with 1 star plus abusive tags from anonymous scumbags.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't doubt the capabilities of writers like Waylandsmithy and others who 75% of the time are pretty good and get published frequently.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But I hate the fake cameraderie group dynamic which excludes and denigrates many posters who just find the whole bullshit process wearing them down.
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			<title>Gerontius on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138235</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Gerontius</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Billy 'The Boot' Bonds...legend&#60;br /&#62;
Scariest beard in the old First Division
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			<title>Ironduke on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138228</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Ironduke</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;The spirit of Bonzo is indeed still playing for West Ham, in the human form of Kevin Nolan
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			<title>ronseal on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138174</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ronseal</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Does anyone think Arsene Wenger should be sacked?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Isn't it time we let Brian Clough manage England&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Are women better at multi tasking? What's the future for men?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Has political correctness gone mad?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Is immigration a good thing? Or are we too soft? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And what about the NHS? Should we allow people to have cosmetic surgery and expect the tax payer to pick up the bill? Is this what Nye Bevan had in mind?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Is Billy Bonds still playing for West Ham?
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			<title>Ironduke on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138105</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Ironduke</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I think they're playing flounce trumps
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			<title>Quaz on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138096</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Quaz</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Did someone just flounce on the back of a retro-flounce from a year ago? That has to be a first, even round here.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>rikkor on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138092</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rikkor</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;You'd know, Liza.
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			<title>Oxbridge on "good bye, I quit"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Oxbridge</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;They dug this old controversy up again?? That's SO gay.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>Perks on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138061</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Perks</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;So what happened to the guy having this flounce?
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>Scroat on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-138057</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Scroat</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Don't go.&#60;br /&#62;
Say you'll stay.&#60;br /&#62;
It won't be the same&#60;br /&#62;
If you go away.
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			<title>rikkor on "good bye, I quit"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rikkor</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I have only ever heard of a proctologist being asked to step away from the stool.
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			<title>Scroat on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-137908</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Scroat</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Chill.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>writinginbsl on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-137865</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>writinginbsl</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;i think you ought to come back soon manley-i happen to think the beatles are overrated and cats kill 25 million birds a year.
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			<title>Gerontius on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-137843</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Gerontius</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Come on Haywood, mate....step away from the stool.&#60;br /&#62;
We were only joking.&#60;br /&#62;
We love you really.&#60;br /&#62;
Oh hold on...you don't like the Beatles....here have the stool back....and this length of rope could hold a sack of coal.&#60;br /&#62;
Do you need a hand up?
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			<title>Haywood Manley on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944&amp;page=2#post-137837</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Haywood Manley</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;After all the hoo-hah yesterday in which some valid criticisms were made - albeit rather too bluntly in some cases - we find business as usual with three Smithys (one deservedly so) on the front page and back-slaps all around for having supposedly fended off the latest 'flounce' attack, with not one iota of analysis or introspection regarding the points raised. Shame. This whole cult of mutual congratulation and fawning adulation, seemingly irrespective of the quality of the material, does little to prevent some of you from appearing more than a bit 'weird' to the outside world, and has made what should be a great communal website an increasingly boring and frustrating place to frequent. And not a particularly funny one at that (though both Newsthump and the Daily Mash seem also to have lost their edge of late).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Maybe it's me - to be fair I don't like the Beatles and fail to see why anyone would want a cat as a pet, so I'm quite used to being at odds with the mindset of the general populace - but most of the stuff I posted here was largely ignored for whatever reason. Not enough whimsy and bad puns perhaps? Or perhaps just not funny. I don't know, but after a while it becomes simply not worth the effort.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Anyway, for what it's worth, I reckon a few of you could do to take some of this criticism on board, and maybe take a few steps back from all the mutually generated, self-replicating hype that's already spoiled this site and has no doubt driven away many a visitor and potential contributor. And I know I'm not the only one on here who feels this way.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This is not a cry for attention (unlike the post which started this thread a year or so ago), nor a bunch of sour grapes - just my two pence worth in what should be an important debate, if you value the collective creative process that is. Anyway, good luck with it all, have fun, and if you're ever in Lincoln look me up for a pint.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Cheerio&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Darryl
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			<title>rikkor on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944#post-137775</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rikkor</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;God. What a retro-flounce.  I blame the Jews.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>Haywood Manley on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944#post-137752</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Haywood Manley</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Interesting point about whimsy vs satire by FraserWords half way up this page. Nail hit squarely on head.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>The All New Jeni B on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944#post-137749</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>The All New Jeni B</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm just appalled that I thought it a wise move to sign myself 'TANJB'.
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			<title>Ironduke on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944#post-137745</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Ironduke</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Time to dust off an old flounce?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Nothing new under the sun...!
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			<title>The All New Jeni B on "good bye, I quit"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=27944#post-77532</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>The All New Jeni B</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Dear Mr reasonable, &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;please show the assembled throng the courtesy of posting a warning prior to making comments such as the one above.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Had I been unfortunate enough to have had a mouthful of hot tea at the point of reading, I would now be pursuing you through legal channels for compensation.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hugs 'n' kisses,&#60;br /&#62;
TANJB&#60;br /&#62;
xxx
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