http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Thu, 23 May 2013 00:27:09 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-135198 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:57:58 +0000 Oxbridge 135198@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Actually that's the best knob gag I've seen in a while. Except possibly the now legendary Veet hair remover reviews on Amazon. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-135095 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:05:23 +0000 riesler 135095@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Looks like I've won some sort of raffle. I'll take the shortbread please. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-135057 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 07:16:04 +0000 and another one 135057@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>(Knob.) </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-135056 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 07:15:31 +0000 and another one 135056@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Sorry, that probably came across as very rude. I was just drunkenly amusing myself by finding a random year-old article and putting the word "knob" at the bottom. </p> <p>Seems a bit childish in the cold light of day... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-135021 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:37:29 +0000 nickb 135021@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>was that a knob joke? Or just a knob? Anyway both are welcome! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-135002 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:16:40 +0000 and another one 135002@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Knob. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60981 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:03:11 +0000 editor 60981@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Apologies if this front page has upset some, but I think the story is valid.</p> <p>The point of the piece is 'Even in the most terrible tragedy we can imagine, over here people are still thinking stupid, trivial, selfish thoughts.' That is clearly not laughing at the Japanese, it is actually quite an intense bit of satire about us by one of the best writers ever to grace the NewsBiscuit subs board. </p> <p>If this site only ever left everyone in total agreement about what was a fair target then surely it would be doing something wrong. It is gratifying that so many people care but if some are so angered that some choose not to come back then so be it.</p> <p>So thanks for all the feedback; and for the fact that most of the debate has been pretty thoughtful and restrained. We will take this experience into account when picking future front pages. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60969 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:38:06 +0000 be reasonable 60969@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>"How big does a tragedy have to be and how old before we stop treading on eggshells?"<br /> I guess it's all about context. If a man on his deathbed makes a joke about his situation, it might be courage in the face of adversity. If his Doctor does the same thing, it's insensitive, crass and potentially dehumanising.<br /> As I've posted elsewhere, I did see that the target was selfish consumerism, and as I've also said elsewhere, that is a fair target - but just not in this context.<br /> No offence intended to anyone, even darkbill. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60957 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:58:27 +0000 beau-jolly 60957@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>More comments appeared while I was writing this. No personal digs and if anyone's connection is less than tenuous you have my full sympathy. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60955 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:54:45 +0000 beau-jolly 60955@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>As has been pointed out, this is not a joke about the human suffering in Japan.<br /> What I find offensive is when someone goes out of their way to find some tenuous connection to any tragedy so they can be "affected" more than the next man. We should ridicule anyone who gets a vicarious thrill from the news coverage; tutting and shaking their heads, safe in the knowledge that its on the other side of the world.<br /> Saying "its disgusting" always makes me think of Mary Whitehouse going out of her way to be disgusted every night whilst mentally flicking her bean.<br /> I once told a joke in the pub about a suicidal steam train enthusiast throwing himself on the track and being chuffed to bits. Someone was outraged because his mate had been killed by a train 15 years previously.<br /> We still happily make jokes about a young mother dying slowly in a car wreck. At the time my (now ex)wife was upset because she was born in the same year as Di.<br /> How big does a tragedy have to be and how old before we stop treading on eggshells? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60952 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:37:17 +0000 be reasonable 60952@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>OllieP,<br /> fair enough. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60951 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:35:22 +0000 OllieP 60951@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>be reasonable, I agree that I probably shouldn't have compared this story to Brass Eye for the reasons you suggest, hence the use of the word somewhat. It was just that I couldn't think of another similar example which would support the point I was making.</p> <p>I also don't want a slanging match as I, like The Paper Ostrich, am not endorsing the content of the article. It is too soon to make jokes about Japan and I reiterate I felt uneasy about it when I saw it this morning. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60948 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:21:06 +0000 be reasonable 60948@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I don't want to get into a slanging match, but the post could not have been coherently made unless the earthquake/tsunami/nuclear disaster had happened, therefore the joke arises directly from the tragedy, IMHO. To deny the connection when it is implicit in the post is illogical. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60944 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:15:13 +0000 The Paper Ostrich 60944@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Rikkor, I can understand your unease, but I agree with OllieP and Oxbridge. I think it's important to recognise that the point OllieP has just made is precisely that this sub is NOT aimed at the Japan disaster, as you seem to suggest. </p> <p>As it happens I wasn't too keen on the article - I think it's too soon, and in any case it's not the most polished satire we've seen on Newsbiscuit. But I ultimately don't have a problem because the target is not the victims, and that is a key element of what we are exploring. Be reasonable's point - that there are better ways of satirising what is being satirised - is a good one. Ultimately this article may be ill-judged but I don't believe it is offensive. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60941 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:11:33 +0000 be reasonable 60941@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>OllieP,<br /> with respect, this is not in the same league as the Brass Eye Paedophile Special, where the target was,as you say, very clearly the media. The target here seems to be selfish consumerism, and there are plenty of ways of satirising that without linking it to death and grief. Whole towns have been destroyed, FFS. This not just an issue of taste or social acceptability, it goes to the heart of what it is to be human. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60939 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:08:10 +0000 rikkor 60939@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Good, Ollie. Tell me when one of your nearest and dearest is over-exposed to radiation, and I'll write some jokes about it to cheer you up. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60938 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:58:53 +0000 OllieP 60938@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I agree that I was initially a little uneasy about today's FP. But, while I admit that not everyone will find its content amusing, the targets are those described by Oxbridge above. It is in a somewhat similar vein as the Brass Eye Paedophilia Special which caused widespread outrage but was clearly aimed to mock the media and their deliberately hysterical reporting on the subject in order to shift papers.</p> <p>This one is going to cause controversy but the joke is certainly not on those suffering in Japan or anyone affected by the tragedy. That much should be clear whether or not you find it funny. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60932 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:39:47 +0000 rikkor 60932@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>This sub is disgusting, and makes me wonder about being inolved in this site. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60917 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:07:55 +0000 and another one 60917@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Almost makes you wonder who "darkbill" really <em>is</em>? :-) </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60916 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:07:39 +0000 be reasonable 60916@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I have encountered anxious comments on news pages expressing concern about the availability of computer games in the aftermath of this tragedy; life imitating art, perhaps. Human nature never ceases to amaze and depress in equal measure. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60915 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:13:29 +0000 Oxbridge 60915@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>There may be some people who think the tsunami is hilarious but they aren't here. It seems completely obvious that the target is people who see everything in terms of their own convenience, of which there are billions. Not Dark Bill's best but certainly not anything to condemn either. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60910 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:46:08 +0000 Scroat 60910@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Perhaps insensitivity is the target. Hope so Miss Bill. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60905 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:09:26 +0000 math@malcol.org 60905@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>You're right, Riesler. While people are still unaccounted for, and after whole communities and towns have been obliterated, it isn't really time to laugh at Japan. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60899 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:06:42 +0000 Gerontius 60899@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>It’s a tough one to call<br /> But if anybody can’t quite make up their mind, try watching this video clip of the old folk<br /> Too old to run, unable to escape – they just stand there, staring at the wave as it heads towards them... waiting for it to crush them. You might just spot the panic stricken mother with the pram too.<br /> I’ve not added it to my favourites bar<br /> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12735023" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12735023</a> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60881 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 07:42:49 +0000 Stan Laurel 60881@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Why's that? Not reserved yours at Currys yet? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=22526#post-60880 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 06:27:03 +0000 riesler 60880@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>... but I'm a little uneasy about the FP today. </p>