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		<title>Forum &#187; Topic: Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife</title>
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			<title>4ty2 on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 08:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>4ty2</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;we should review strategy if still going at day 12
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			<title>Golgo13 on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Golgo13</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks all. The last line is supposed to be about sexed-up reports of Nan not having long to live - not about her incontinence. Just for clarity. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;...and &#34;handover of presents&#34; is probably better than &#34;present exchange&#34;.
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			<title>Malcum eggs on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Malcum eggs</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;五星　　　　　デエズくライブイズア君Ｔ
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			<title>De-scribe on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>De-scribe</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Excellent. Front Page waiting to happen. 5 of your Xmas stars.
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			<title>DiY on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>DiY</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;Five!&#60;/strong&#62; Cracking stuff!
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			<title>IABP on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>IABP</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes we had a dilemna when neighbours moved and we had to keep visiting. That difficult first year of declining the invitation was a tense affair. Trouble was, they cooked all their stuff while we there and we had ours at about 10.30pm at night (maybe exaggerated).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You're looking like Christmas number 1. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You'll know how Mr Blobby, Bob the Builder and the very apt St Winifred's School Choir felt. Perhaps Red could set up another musical one with the Choir singing 'There's No-one Quite Like Grandma'
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			<title>Oxbridge on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;[Sound of mug in post]
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			<title>MC One R on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Quality work. *****
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			<title>rickwestwell on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rickwestwell</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;@Golgo - good idea - it's an old NewsBiscuit tradition waiting to happen!
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			<title>victory V on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>victory V</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;More 'Nan veterans have committed suicide since the end of hostilities in '73 than were killed during the whole period of conflict. And all because Northern 'Nan thought the Southern 'Nan was an uppity-fuck.&#60;br /&#62;
It's easy to spot a 'Nan veteran. Loud noises (like the sound of a seven-year old packet of custard creams being opened) will cause him to scream and dive for cover behind the sofa.&#60;br /&#62;
5*
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			<title>Golgo13 on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 07:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Golgo13</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Cheers. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@rickwestwell. Yes that was an homage to (rip-off of) your timebomb line. I hope that in time it establishes itself as a recurring theme.
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			<title>rickwestwell on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Excellent stuff, Golgo! You've obviously been drinking with the right people.&#60;br /&#62;
&#34;a quagmire waiting to happen&#34; - nice line, vaguely familiar... :-)
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			<title>riesler on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Lovely
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			<title>Hunter F. Thompson on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Hunter F. Thompson</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;* * * * *
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			<title>saltire on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 04:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>saltire</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Beautifully written Golgo.Phrasing reminiscent of a certain StoopydeGunt Esq. That's meant as a compliment.Don't tell him though.
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			<title>Golgo13 on "Visit to Nan &#039;needs clear exit strategy, measurable objectives&#039; says wife"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 01:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Golgo13</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Speaking on the eve of a Christmas trip to meet in-laws at her husband's Nan's house in Dorset, Sally Westacott said the effort was being undermined by vague social aims and confusion about the rationale for the Bristol family's continued involvement in the annual visits. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Mrs Westacott, one of the Westacott family's most respected parents, broke ranks from the official policy line, saying, 'From our family's point of view, we should be trying to spell out some clearer, measurable objectives that would lead to some sort of time-line for eventually withdrawing from that theatre. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;'Having gone every year, we cannot unilaterally stay away, but we should not consider having an open-ended commitment there. We've got to have an exit strategy based on a series of measurable outcomes.'&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;She said this could include some clearer benchmarks on the definition of 'catching up with Uncle Dave', an agreed timetable for present exchange, and an open and frank debate on whether they were staying overnight.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Although in public there was still broad support from family leaders for the visits to Nan, many in the extended family privately acknowledged that it had been a mistake to initiate such an unsustainable Christmas presence in Dorset, that 'cheering Nan up' was probably not a measurable or attainable long-term objective, and that this ill-defined strategy was a quagmire waiting to happen.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Morale amongst the Westacott troops has also suffered in recent years because although they were initially welcomed when the visits started in 2003, that welcome had transformed into resentment and, at times, open hostility from Nan. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sally's husband, Mark Westacott, who was key in persuading his brothers and their families to instigate the visits in the face of vocal opposition from their children, still insists that he wouldn't do anything differently, despite intelligence presented at the time that Nan 'could literally go at any time' turning out to be false.
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