http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120 The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Tue, 21 May 2013 01:45:45 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120&page=2#post-49927 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:36:47 +0000 Golgo13 49927@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I'm a bit pissed, so y'all have me at a bit of a disadvantage, but I reckon it IS possible to do unPC material in an environment where PC material is expected and the target is the man on stage. He is assuming the clothes of the fool and we laugh at him. Having said that, Frankie Boyle's show is a bag of shite. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120&page=2#post-49922 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:23:31 +0000 shitsu_tonka 49922@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I was surprised that Dave Cohen didn't also mention Ricky Gervais. I'd say his material has a lot in common with Carr and Boyle's. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120&page=2#post-49898 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:26:31 +0000 thisisall1word 49898@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Dave Cohen's piece has some fair points but linking Carr, Boyle &amp; Sadowitz in with the Mannings of the world seems somewhat bizarre and far fetched.</p> <p>Manning was a tin of ronseal whereas the others (to different degrees) outwardly say that they are a tin of ronseal but the joke works because the audience knows that they are not a tin of ronseal but whatever the metaphorical equivilent is when tin of ronseal = obnoxious racist/misogynistic/homophobic bore.</p> <p>It's a wheeze that plays on the fact that stand ups are a liberal right on pinko guardian reading bunch who take offence at most that life has to throw at them. And get this: it turns that on it's head! But that joke's wearing thin and Frankie Boyle plays it as close to the knuckle as he can. As Kurt Vonnegut warned us in Mother Night, we should be careful who we pretend to be because we might well become that person.</p> <p>Anyway Boyle is a tiring Bully who I still find very funny from time to time but Tramadol Nights is appaulling ill conceived and rubbish.</p> <p>Oh - and Sadowitz can do what he likes as far as I'm concerned, I'd trust him 100% with any material. Boyle stole his whole shtick from him but doesn't do it half as well. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49692 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:01:13 +0000 4ty2 49692@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>as witz means joke his name sad joke seems to be a giveaway. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49673 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:03:50 +0000 Doylem 49673@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I've only ever seen Jerry Sadowitz live once, at Glastonbury Festival. Maybe I was younger, more easily pleased (and pleasantly stoned, no doubt), but I laffed myself silly. He went into the audience and punched a couple of people. Like I say: easily amused. Of course, if he's still doing this then maybe the joke's wearing thin... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49671 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:39:22 +0000 shitsu_tonka 49671@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I feel the same way about Jerry Sadowitz. He's utterly predictable, does a few magic tricks, brilliant ones to be fair, then calls everyone in the audience a cunt and shouts about hoping people will die horribly from cancer.</p> <p>One of the most boring gigs I've ever been to. </p> <p>Thanks for the link, Stan, brilliant article. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49668 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:33:08 +0000 Doylem 49668@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>It doesn't take long for 'outrageous' to turn into 'tedious'. Comedy needs to release a few surprises, but Frankie Boyle seems stuck in a groove. I pretty much know what's coming next... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49664 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:19:22 +0000 Mary Evans 49664@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>The thing I find even harder to forgive than the lazy attention-seeking "look at me, I say cunt" comedy (he's a really smart bloke - he can be so much funnier and still push the envelope) - is that Frankie has left me feeling that Katie Price has the moral high ground. </p> <p>The 'where to draw the line' debate is a regular and robust one around here and I'm firmly on the side of free speech. But just because he should be allowed to say what he wants doesn't mean that he can't use some compassion - even for Katie Price. To make a twisted joke about a disabled child is pretty grim in my humble, especially as he has been blessed with a healthy child. Wouldn't like that kind of karma knocking around my family. God knows we've enough hexes and voodoo curses to contend with already. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49647 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:09:45 +0000 pinxit 49647@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Excellent piece by Dave Cohen. Thanks Stan. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49642 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:55:21 +0000 4ty2 49642@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>guess he wants to become the first sheite comedian from glasgow tring a comedy suicide act. Have you tried putting his comedy in a word cloud? Wonder what word would stand out - not really </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49625 Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:55:23 +0000 Jeremy Dillon 49625@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Apparently viewing figures dropped between the first show and the second show, will be interesting to see if figures for tonight's show are up as a result of all the publicity the show has received in the last seven days after Jordan made her complaint to OFCOM. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49615 Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:05:43 +0000 FormerlyAlOPecia 49615@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Like venison pate that's gone off. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49544 Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:51:42 +0000 Golgo13 49544@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I keep forgetting it's on and end up watching something else, instead... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49543 Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:44:14 +0000 Doylem 49543@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>^^^ interesting piece. This kinda sums up my feelings too...</p> <p><blockquote>there are comedians who choose to make jokes against the powerful, and comedians who choose to make jokes against the powerless.</blockquote> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-49539 Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:34:57 +0000 Stan Laurel 49539@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Interesting piece on the Frankie Boyle controversy and hate comedy generally. Courtesy of the brilliant @thesimonevans <a href="http://bit.ly/hwllUf">- LINK - </a> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48981 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:31:59 +0000 StoopyDeGunt 48981@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>As for Frankie Boyle. He seems quite bullying and cruel.</p> <p>Imagine what he's like when he's had a few drinks! </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48979 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:30:14 +0000 StoopyDeGunt 48979@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I met the bloke who does the voice over for the X Factor recently.<br /> But he wouldn't do the voice. He's just started a technology company called Iovox. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48955 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:13:31 +0000 Zadok the second 48955@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Stand-ups who went on to Hollywood: Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, Eddie Murphy, Steve Martin, Eddie Izzard, Jim Carrey etc</p> <p>Stand-ups who went on to do voice-overs for Settlers Wind-eze and Kotex Ultra: Caroline Quentin </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48908 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:32:00 +0000 riesler 48908@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>particularly Paul Merton, brilliant on HIGNFY and Just a Minute, but his TV series was remarkably dire. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48904 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:26:05 +0000 Oxbridge 48904@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Basically, quite a lot of people are - yeah all right sometimes, in some peoples' opinion - very funny just being themselves but can't act or do any kind of script for toffee. Many have been listed already, cf. also Jo Brand, Ross Noble, Paul Merton, etc. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48902 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:14:00 +0000 ermintrude 48902@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I'm enjoying the standup bits the sketches are a bit hit and miss. Have seen his live stuff become more &amp; more offensive over the years but still funny.<br /> My bro in law thinks he is mentally ill so take your pick<br /> Enjoyed one Bill Bailey thing live but he then ruined it by doing the last 10 minutes with his band Beergut 100 - pub band rubbish </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48901 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:13:42 +0000 Sinnick 48901@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Have to agree. Frankie's one of my favourite comics, and I was looking forward to his TV programme. Turned off after 15 minutes to watch a missed episode of "Strictly". It plain missed the mark. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48854 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:05:09 +0000 riesler 48854@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>He does seem to be a bit of a one-trick pony, right up there with Julian "Do you know I am gay" Clary and Lenny "Do you know I am black" Henry.</p> <p>Agree with Alixir ref Bill Bailey - that's how it should be done but there are few with his range of talents. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48831 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:50:34 +0000 Doylem 48831@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>'Taboo' subjects fail to shock if they're wheeled out too often. Swearwords too. They need using sparingly, like chilli powder in cooking. I've only ever seen Frankie Boyle on Mock the Week, and he always seemed overly pleased with himself about getting a laugh out of something offensive. Picking on vulnerable targets can look like bullying, too, especially when the world is full of mad, greedy, self-important bastards who deserve to be mocked and satirised... </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48816 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 03:51:04 +0000 shitsu_tonka 48816@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Good point Golgo. Does anyone remember Eddie Izzard's attempt at TV glory? Unspeakably bad, and lurking on YouTube for the curious.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAQXFBcKhSs">Cows</a> </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48789 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 22:17:00 +0000 IABP 48789@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>He could become a spokesperson for the Find Madeleine campaign.</p> <p>I don't like swearing surprisingly so it limits the amount of comedians I can watch/see/hear. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48787 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 22:11:07 +0000 thackaray 48787@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>If this show doesn't work for him, maybe he could try his luck at presenting a CBeebies program. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48781 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 21:49:56 +0000 Golgo13 48781@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Can't think of any other examples off the top of my head but I think quite a few good comedians have had an awful experience when they first get their own show. Don't want to write him off. Wrong vehicle maybe. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48770 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:32:14 +0000 The All New Jeni B 48770@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Sooooo disappointed by Tramadol Nights, although I did giggle a wee bit at the Knight Rider sketch the other week.</p> <p>Thought he was a genius on Mock the Week, and the stand up was fab too, but this... this is beyond shite.<br /> It reminds me of the sort of pish that some wee boy trying to act big in front of his mates would do. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=18120#post-48752 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 19:36:04 +0000 Dexter 48752@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Boyle is hilarious on 'stop the week' but I suspect he takes the 'shock=funny' equation to the extreme. It's a pity; he's naturally gifted and witty, but goes for taboo breaking as a default setting. </p>