http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/tags.php?tag=saltire-is-vcg The NewsBiscuit Community en-US Wed, 22 May 2013 03:45:43 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/search.php http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160908 Sat, 02 Feb 2013 19:02:21 +0000 Carter 160908@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Nothing specific. Personally don't need a course to start stand up because I already do it. Was just musing and wondering if people found them beneficial. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160890 Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:45:56 +0000 ronseal 160890@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Carter</p> <p>Golgo13 is right</p> <p>I did the course that Rhod Gilbert did. (different results obviously)</p> <p>What do you want to know? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160424 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:35:43 +0000 Perks 160424@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I promise I will only ever use the initials WS from now on </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160423 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:28:38 +0000 Vertically Challenged Giant 160423@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Good idea Perks, I'll do that. Just so long as everybody else promises not to put vcg on their anonymous tags and pretend that it was me. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160422 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:18:44 +0000 Perks 160422@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>if you just put VCG at the end of the anonymous tags, we'll know its you keeping true to your word </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160421 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:17:01 +0000 Vertically Challenged Giant 160421@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I see your point, although at the moment the tags aren't mine. Maybe I should sign the anonymous tags. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160420 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:15:35 +0000 AReader 160420@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>I’m going to start giving more detailed feedback. Instead of just saying “Very good” I’ll say “Very good, I liked the bit with the words that made me laugh. The words that didn’t make me laugh weren’t quite so good, but still added to the overall piece so were a worthwhile addition.”. And if I don’t like something, instead of ignoring it I’ll give it 1* and some abusive tags.</blockquote></p> <p>You're going to START doing this? How will we tell? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160419 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:09:28 +0000 godly1966 160419@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Writing technique I am sure can be taught but you need the funny ideas in the first place. With stand-up I think most aspiring comics copy their comedy heroes to start with and then try to evolve their own style over a period of time. Posting on here at least gives you some feedback but don't worry if your postings sometime fall off the bottom of the page without comment it happens to everyone. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160418 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:53:20 +0000 Perks 160418@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>if it doesn't get used, could we have the first mass flounce? </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160415 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:36:02 +0000 Vertically Challenged Giant 160415@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>You should be able to get some honest feedback on NB, but generally you don’t. People avoid giving what is meant to be constructive criticism because some people don’t want it, and spit their dummy out when they are given it.</p> <p>I’m going to start giving more detailed feedback. Instead of just saying “Very good” I’ll say “Very good, I liked the bit with the words that made me laugh. The words that didn’t make me laugh weren’t quite so good, but still added to the overall piece so were a worthwhile addition.”. And if I don’t like something, instead of ignoring it I’ll give it 1* and some abusive tags.</p> <p>You should also be able to post a sub and have people suggest additions/alterations to make the writing process much more collaborative. I’m sure a lot of people have got half thought out ideas that they are struggling to finish, why not post them in the chat room and see what fellow biscuits can add to them?</p> <p>Or just pad them out a bit and tag a half-arsed punchline on, you know, whatever suits you best.</p> <p>I have some story ideas written down that I either haven’t got around to writing up or don’t have enough material for. I might start trying to encourage collaboration by posting one of them for people to add to and then sulk when everybody ignores it. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160414 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:22:07 +0000 Tripod 160414@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I did a stand-up workshop with Tony Allen (the 'godfather of alternative comedy'), and another with Linda Smith (in Sheffield, before she was well-known). Both great fun, and I followed up by doing a few stand-up slots: terrifying but life-affirming. Ten minutes can seem like a lifetime... though the sound of laughter (laughter that <em>you've</em> created...) is intoxicating. </p> <p>The best workshop was with Jonathan Kay, 'the Fool'... not quite stand-up, but fascinating. I remember seeing him at Glastonbury, working with crowds big and small... and I realised I badly wanted to know some of the things <em>he</em> knew. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160411 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:05:52 +0000 Dick Everyman 160411@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>@perks....<strong>Sometimes I find things in my head are hilarious then on here they die a death</strong></p> <p>Death is an important element of the comedy writing process...it works for me everytime </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160365 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:31:41 +0000 Perks 160365@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>That's where NB should be at its best. You can post something and should be able to get some honest feedback. Sometimes I find things in my head are hilarious then on here they die a death, but you don't know until you post </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160361 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:17:32 +0000 AReader 160361@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Any more books recommended on writing comedy that would help with the process on NB? What I find difficult is the construction of a piece of comedy writing after conceiving the original idea. </p> <p>Most of the time I can't decide whether the idea will work and abandon it, because I have no real idea whether something that appeals to me will appeal (or appal) a larger audience than the voices in my head. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160352 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:18:17 +0000 godly1966 160352@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>And now he can stand up </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160348 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:37:02 +0000 Golgo13 160348@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>Ronseal did a stand-up course, I think. </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160346 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:30:33 +0000 Perks 160346@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1444128922/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1359491277&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SL75">and this too</a> . Both contain some good exercises that get the cogs turning. Then I think with anything, the more you do it the more natural it gets </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160345 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:25:52 +0000 Perks 160345@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>I think you can. I think there are those that are naturally funny, but I think people can be taught.</p> <p> I think it is about learning what works and what doesn't. A good joke will follow basic rules. On here most FP length subs are lots if jokes that revolve around the main joke.. So if you can learn to write jokes around one subject then you can write some good stuff. But even then it can be hit or miss. A great book on joke writing is <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1907498370/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1359491016&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SL75">this by Sally Holloway</a> . I know that some pro comedians and writers reference it to help kill writers block and would highly recommend for anyone who enjoys writing comedy </p> http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=55477#post-160339 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:55:21 +0000 Carter 160339@http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/ <p>This chaps thinks so. Santa gave me this at Christmas and I've been dipping in and out of it, playing around with the exercises and having a read. It's certainly explained a few things and I now write a little faster and with more confidence because it teaches you ways of approaching writing that are easy to turn on and off. </p> <p>Worth a look, I'd say: <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Cheeky-Monkey-Tim-Ferguson/dp/0868198617" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Cheeky-Monkey-Tim-Ferguson/dp/0868198617</a></p> <p>Anyone ever done an actual comedy course? A whole teaching industry has sprung up around comedy, especially stand up, that even ten years ago didn't exist. Has anyone here paid to be made more amusing? </p>