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			<title>waylandsmithy on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155826</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>waylandsmithy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;AReader, you seem unhappy that I expressed myself, perhaps you owe Ken Livingstone money. Are you a Venezuelan oil company?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There is a protocol. Sadly, I can't be arsed to trawl the internet to find a copy of the official letter that contains the reference. It may be there somewhere, it may not be. If you're that interested, have a look yourself.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Again, the point isn't that he disagrees with the system; it's that he came across as a prick.
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			<title>Dick Everyman on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155815</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Dick Everyman</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Yep Mr B.  Case closed. In fact I've been getting away with murder for months.  Wayland, you may just get away with a community service order unlike the Tag you got the last time for comedic perjury...
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			<title>PeterB on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155814</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>PeterB</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Since when has factual accuracy been a pre-requisite for posting on this site?
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>The All New Jeni B on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155807</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>The All New Jeni B</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Unfortunately, I can't recall exactly where or when I read that it is a requirement that those who decline maintain their silence (in much the same way that those who accept are required to stay quiet until the official announcement), but the leaking of that information a few years back was considered a major breach.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This article explains the level of secrecy : &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16736495&#34;&#62;Refusniks.&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>Vertically Challenged Giant on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155786</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Vertically Challenged Giant</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Ostentatious modesty&#34; is a great phrase.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Up to your usual standard wayland.
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			<title>AReader on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155756</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>AReader</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;There is a protocol not to mention it if you turn down an honour, because loudly announcing that you have detracts from those who accept an award, and also declares that you met the requirements to win one. It's basically bragging.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There is a protocol? Where? Show me this &#34;Protocol for non-acceptance of an honour&#34;, because I think it doesn't exist.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Is it bragging? The man has his own radio show and you expect him to be humble? What planet are you on?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;If Livingstone doesn't think politicians should receive such awards he is entitled to say so. Dropping into conversation (on his own radio show) that he'd turned one down was unnecessary, churlish and undignified.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Why unnecessary, churlish and undignified to refuse an honour on principle? Churlish and undignified would have been to accept the honour and then throw it back in the Queen's face.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I think Red Ken has the right to freely express himself. I'm amazed at the reactions of people who think these honours are so incredibly important that if one does not accept them on principle, one is obligated never to tell a soul that it happened or why it was refused.
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			<title>DustyBinLaden on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155749</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>DustyBinLaden</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Lovely sub and a deserved FP, and I'm a fan of Ken. Even so, he's big enough and thick skinned enough for a good roasting. Funny comment from Charlie too. Stars all over the place.
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			<title>charlies_hat on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155742</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>charlies_hat</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Excellent work as usual. It's an open secret that you turned down WOM twice last year...
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			<title>Perks on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155739</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Perks</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;1st class
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			<title>dvo4fun on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155737</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dvo4fun</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;yeah ... but it's a funny sub aint it?
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			<title>Tripod on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155733</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Tripod</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;An appropriate turn of phrase on the &#60;em&#62;Guardian&#60;/em&#62; website today: 'ostentatious modesty'.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There's no need to wait for that defining moment of refusing an honour; anyone can mock the class-ridden awfulness of the honours system on any day of the year...
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			<title>waylandsmithy on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155726</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>waylandsmithy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Danny Boyle didn't say he'd turned it down though. There is a protocol not to mention it if you turn down an honour, because loudly announcing that you have detracts from those who accept an award, and also declares that you met the requirements to win one. It's basically bragging.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If Livingstone doesn't think politicians should receive such awards he is entitled to say so. Dropping into conversation (on his own radio show) that he'd turned one down was unnecessary, churlish and undignified. That was the point I was trying to make: he acted like an oaf, just for a change.
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			<title>AReader on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155725</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 10:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>AReader</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;Traditionally, people who refuse an honour are urged to keep quiet about it, for fear that repeatedly banging on about it might make them look like a self-promoting prick. &#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't understand this line at all. Are you saying that there is some sort of law that if you refuse an offered gong and refuse it on long-standing principle, you are not allowed to say so? Far from banging on about it, he mentioned it once and said why.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#34;I didn't bid for the Olympics because I wanted three weeks of sport.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;I bid for the Olympics because it's the only way to get the billions of pounds out of the government to develop the east end.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Speaking on his show earlier he said: &#34;The pleasure I get is seeing it all worked, we promised the IOC what would be the best Olympics ever and that's what they got and I just don't believe politicians should get all these gongs.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Danny Boyle, creator of the Olympic Opening Ceremony show which included a cameo by the Queen, also refused an honour.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;When asked if he would like to become &#34;Sir Danny&#34; during an interview on Radio 4's Front Row earlier in the year, Mr Boyle said: &#34;I'm very proud to be an equal citizen and I think that's what the opening ceremony was actually about.&#34;&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Perhaps you'd like to tag Danny Boyle for refusing to join in the preposterous preening of those who accept these ridiculous awards.
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			<title>Sinnick on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155722</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 07:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sinnick</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;A very last minute FP, and a good one.
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			<title>Yikes on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155719</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Yikes</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;ha ha at 'Ken Livingstone CBE (Declined)'
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			<title>dvo4fun on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155710</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dvo4fun</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Absolutely cracking sub wayland; one of your best.
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			<title>Squudge on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155704</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Squudge</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;nice FP
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			<title>Squudge on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155671</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 21:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Squudge</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;mm loving the 'quiet dignity' of your post *****
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			<title>waylandsmithy on "Livingstone reveals ‘turning down CBE was my greatest honour’"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=53962#post-155665</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>waylandsmithy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Former politician Ken Livingstone has announced with quiet dignity on national radio that he ‘jumped at the chance’ to turn down a CBE. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Livingstone explained that he didn’t think politicians should be eligible for the honour, but at the same time wanted as many people as possible to know that he’d been offered one.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“Obviously, the Queen, the prime minister and millions of other people thought that I deserved to be recognised in this way”, said Livingstone. “But turning it down as noisily as possible is a lot more rewarding than going to The Palace.”&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Livingstone revealed that only his wife knew he’d turned down the award at first, but her failure to share the information on Facebook ‘left him with no choice’ but to broadcast the fact in the meek surroundings of his own radio show.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“The lines are open, but I’m not suggesting you phone in and say how proud you are of me”, said Livingstone. “But if you do decide to, I suppose we can discuss it in hushed tones and then say no more about it, until after the next song’s finished.”&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Ken Livingstone CBE (Declined) quietly revealed that he didn’t want every single person in London to bow to him and call him ‘sir’, but if they insisted he’d do his best to endure it and maybe sign their copies of his autobiography.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Traditionally, people who refuse an honour are urged to keep quiet about it, for fear that repeatedly banging on about it might make them look like a self-promoting prick. Fortunately, Livingstone is thicker skinned than most.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The proud-yet-humble ex-mayor is considered to be something of an expert in  being rejected, and he was quick to show a waiting crowd another way of dealing with people who bring up the awarding of unwanted titles. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Leaning away from the microphone of an Evening Standard journalist, he suggested ‘only a Nazi war criminal’ would bring up his very, very quietly declined Venezuelan Medal of Distinction.
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			<title>Martin Shuttlecock on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137434</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Martin Shuttlecock</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Wow. Very demanding audience. Very discerning.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Shuttlecock*&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*I didn't really need to add that, because it says it under that swirly thing on the left.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Or so I'm reliably informed.
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			<title>Haywood Manley on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137433</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 21:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Haywood Manley</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Learnt a new word today - Misandry. Cheers sylkron.
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			<title>rikkor on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137414</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rikkor</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;What pun?  Don't force me to read it.
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			<title>quango on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137410</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>quango</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Has no one else spotted the pun? Took me a while but I finally get it, very clever. Well worth the time, hilarious
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			<title>JohnA on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137409</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>JohnA</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Entirely copied from her own weblog: &#60;a href=&#34;http://kronstantinople.blogspot.com/2011/04/modest-proposal-castration-at-birth.html&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://kronstantinople.blogspot.com/2011/04/modest-proposal-castration-at-birth.html&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Its obviously a cry for attention.
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			<title>Ironduke on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137404</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Ironduke</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;So in essence...Sylkron, maybe if you put out a bit more then you might get some.
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			<title>rikkor on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137389</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rikkor</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm glad that reading the comments gave me a pass for not reading the sub.
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			<title>Sinnick on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137370</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 07:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Sinnick</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;About as intelligent as female circumcision. And WTF has this to do with funny news stories ?
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			<title>Salmon of Knowledge on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137368</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Salmon of Knowledge</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It's a bit short and needs to be more rambling. Have you considered making it a bit more racist?
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			<title>Yikes on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Yikes</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;too grammatically correct to be Kaz ...
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			<title>The All New Jeni B on "A Modest Proposal: Castration at Birth"</title>
			<link>http://newsbiscuit.com/forum/topic.php?id=47855#post-137366</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 23:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>The All New Jeni B</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;D'you think it's another kaztyc special?
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