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my only question is, would it be Gaza or Israel sporting several sets of those lovely gold creole earrings from Elizabeth Duke?
Sad to say but there really is not much of a spirit of trying to encourage new writers and sharing ideas here, despite being the original intention behind the website.
It's degenerated into a small group of people exploiting the rating system by patting each other on the back with high marks, with indiscriminate marking down of anybody else who threatens their dominance - as they would see it. It's not so much a flaw in the website so much as it is personal flaws in the people that exploit it - that's what's depressing about it. I dont like to get moralistic, but I've seen it happen to a whole bunch of new writers here, so its not a personal bitter beef I have.
It's not that I expect the ratings to be precise or anything, it's just the fact that it reveals the underhand depths to which some are prepared to sink. It reveals a self serving - fuck everybody else and look at me attitude. It stinks. It's greedy, selfish and pathetic, and reduces those that engage in it down the evolutionary scale.
Why are they people here that think you have to trample on others to be heard? and how the hell is this supposed to encourage writers to contribute and collaborate when this shit is going on?
But, I suppose it must be the fear of new members joining all the time - something must be done to stop anyone trying to rival their work - as they would see it. Some fear they can't rely on the strength of their material alone, and must resort to dirty underhand tricks to preserve their apparant dominance.
Not that this morally bankrupt tactic always pays off of course, because sometimes the stories that have been frantically downgraded (in the hope they will be ignored) with military precision are developed into front page stories or linked to from the front page, but what it does do is demoralise new writers from contributing in the future, which is the whole point yes?
But congratulations to those for who that arrangement seems to benefit. A petty pyrrhic victory is still a victory of sorts is it not? At least in your own mind.
1. Your tirade against the ratings system seems to miss the crucial point; namely that said system is complete bobbins and rarely if ever has any bearing on what makes an FP or a ticker line, and
2. What does get chosen will be at the whim of the editors. If it so happens that a particular contributor can stay in tune with that whim, then that person is more likely to have repeat success. Meritocracy rather than cabal, I'd say.
I don’t think that Ed is that interested in the votes. If they were that important, we would have a John Sergeant equivalent on the FP every day instead of the current high standard.
Of course, it is demoralising if your gem is voted down, but remember,
a) it will probably not make that much difference
b) maybe it was n’t quite as funny as you thought.
Can I be the first to suggest voting by text?
Now please vote for my piece on the subs board!
you to write bad checks and eat out of a dog dish. But, that's just me. Anyone else?
Perfect and thanks for putting it so eloquantly Ryan.
I only hope the editor's read this and listen, as you say the aim of this website was excellent---to encourgage good new writers. At the moment there is far too much negative marking going on.
The 1-5 star thing might work (see below)
I was more than interested to read:
'How to discourage new writers and remain dominant'
. . then
blah, blah, blah, I like to swear a lot, blah, blah, static noise for me. Did I miss something?
you evidentally did miss something becasue theres no swearing in there.
'Whatever'
is just a pen name isn't it?
you are really John Mortimer.
and ignore the marks on here. I don't think there is a dominant group of people trying to defend their territory, but there are people who vote to get their story in the top ten, and then vote others down to keep it there. The top ten means nothing, good stories will always get picked up by the editor. I first posted on here when the website started and got really hacked off with being voted down, but now I don't care. Just keep posting, take note of the comments and ignore the scores.
I dont vote anyone down. I'm trying to collaborate with people , not demoralise people.
Vote 1-5 stars
1] OK
2] Amusing
3] Funny
4] Very Funny
5] Hilarious
Far less open to abuse.
Therefore any vote actually adds to the submissions total. You can't get the kind of negative voting that happens here so much.
If you don't like a piece of work [or author as is sometimes sadly the case], you would simply ignore it .
This happens on other sites and it stops vendetta's taking place thus placing often very funny pieces in the NB vault never to see the light of day.
(Get this guy on the next flight to Tel Aviv.)
You make it all sound so simple.!
But personally, (speaking as a possible victim of oppression.) I intend to continue firing my puny and ill-directed missiles into the camp of the oppressors'.
me of the worst excesses of the French Revolution. M. Musgrove, go back to Pyongyang where you belong!
Sorry Rikkor but that makes no sence and is not funny.
Having said that I love you and would happily have your children.
This is so sudden. At this moment, as my father has not been consulted, I cannot even give you cause to hope. Meet me in the orangerie at noon tomorrow. My duenna will be present, and we will then be allowed to let events proceed in the proper manner. (Hint: no need to wear pants.)
We should strike whilst the iron is hot Ms Rikkor and populate this damn land with high quality satirists.
This system would prevent the personalised negative voting that goes on a lot here.
It makes it impossible to sabotage a particular piece of work if you don't happen to like the writer.
My NB Annual arrived today.
Off to read it, I may be some time....
bugger, got it wrong again. must be this bloody flu!!
With the recent news that a third runway at Heathrow is looking increasingly unlikely, Isle of Wight entrepreneurs have unveiled a daring plan that they feel will solve the UK’s air traffic congestion at a stroke. Ventnor businessman Alvin Swift and his lifelong friend Dick, opened the island’s first international airship terminal yesterday. Alvin and Dick intend to run up to three scheduled services a day between New York and Ventnor, depending on the wind. Asked if the current lack of large commercial airships is a draw back, Alvin replied, ‘ Well we are talking to the makers of the Hindenburg and the R101 who we understand have considerable experience in the field. There are one or two reliability problems to overcome but the lack of mountains on the island will be distinct advantage’.
The new state of the art terminal which has been designed to compete with Heathrow’s terminal 5 will feature a host of up to the minute facilities for the hard pressed traveller, including a coffee machine, a fully flushing toilet and some seats. Alvin and Dick also plan a low cost alternative featuring hot air balloons. The only disadvantage is that you can only depart but never return and you have no idea where you are going, perfect for today’s uncertain times.

Great work JayGee - absolutely a "wish I'd thought of that".
And a Happy New Year to all.
yep great story and good to see some darker satire on the front page as well..there is hope for "Tyson to get one last chance at rape" yet.
seeing my story on the FP made coming back to work much more bearable!
First you got to headline at Glastonbury and now a great FP. Well done.
that I also married Beyonce and had a very successful trading year with my clothing brand.
to be like you when I grow up. You seem to have it all.
Love it.
Gordon Brown will admit "Actually, maths was never my thing".
Paris Hilton will amaze us all by revealing that for all these years she has just been a character actress so deep in her role that she took in all the major networks and the press. In reality she is plain "Sarah Jones", who actually has a Masters in Philosphy and Politics from Oxford.
I will continue to fail to win the Lottery - particularly the mega-rollover Euromillions.
I still won't put on a 'growth-spurt' to take me over 5'.
Squirrel-Licking may or may not be hit by a doping scandal.
I will make at least one ill-advised post-pub post.
I will fail once again in my plans to get an early night.
And Gordon Brown will be unveiled as the 'Handsome Prince' Shrek.
..I must have really pissed someone off....
Or, society is to blame. It can't be you, that's for sure.
I either don't vote (if the sub is really pathetic), or give decent votes or decent votes with suggestions. In that way, I can still be the site's vicious, catty Mother Teresa.
At last we agree Rikkor. I go along with the old Thumper quote in Bambi : "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all".
(Unless the comment or submission is just offensive when I think it needs to be pointed out).
Voting people down just discourages and all of us writer's in here, especially at our level, need encouragement.
Approximately
Are you in bomb disposal?
I've dropped a few in my time
Then an ad flashed up for Fart-O Matic
It's either one of Rikkor's Irish relatives or Google can now read minds
Early on in a submission's life, the score seems to be really volatile. I find they enter as a high eight, then drop to a mid six, then find their 'true' score. I have no idea why this should be the case.
I think its got something to do with Aliens . .
I think Steve Jobs and Fred Amoroso visited yesterday morning.
....there you go.
. . .mattdaniels' and des's 'impatience-sensitive lift' story made the FP - and the link to a previous semi-related sub is great; could help reduce those awkward 'I wrote something very similar, only better' tantrums that prima donnas like me are prone to. And it gives readers an extra reason to drill down further into the site. Mind the doors - going up. . .
What's 2 multiplied by 5?
I tried to join thespoof.com but failed the entrance examination.
Answer depends on whether you are Jesus.
Tres, tres amusant.
Teaching hindsight is such an innovative idea. There will be no need for new texts. The old ones will be just fine. What about recording teacher lectures on VHS or better yet Betta tapes since the curriculum won't be changing.
When you view the entire HM the Queen/Honour killings sub, there is an internet ad for a muslim dating (actually marriage) site. Spooky coincidence, or deliberate?
Anywho, I think that the site may cause a few honor killings just by existing, as there is an option to choose man/man or woman/woman hook-ups. (And there are some lovely burka-d gym teachers to choose from.)
Unless they're trying to escape to Pakistan after trying to blow us up.
No, no (look at it, muslima.com). Among the garden variety terrorists-in-training, there are actually women in head scarfs seeking out other women. Also, men who want to make the beast with two backs with other men. Would I lie to you? I don't have to crack open my Koran to realize that these folks must be the Muslim equivalent of Reform Jews, that is, not quite sure of the concept.
and shouting "open sesame" at the screen and nothing happens. It's maybe been bombed by now, but who knows by which side. I'll try again later.
playing dicksy was the intended pun, should have perhaps said play dicksy on it. Don't worry- I don't get my own jokes sometimes either. Interesting to hear of your privileged childhood in the mid deep south. I was the only black child in Buckingham Palace and had it real hard.
My guess is the P. O'Wales. Childhood wasn't extremely privileged. In those days, you did not need to be very well off to be separated from those of duskier hue anywhere in the US. Just the way it was. I do remember being astonished the first time I saw a black person in a restaurant down South. Just something that no one talked about. The town we lived in had to establish their first public library in the early 1970's. Up unitil that point, everyone (who counted) was very OK with a private library that had language in its charter excluding any non-Caucasians. Things are better now.
Continually singing "Ten little Nigger Boys, and you're the Last one Left" main problem though was with Princess Marge.The continually baths with her trying to "wash me white" totally ignoring the muck on my face.
Everyone here still finds it strange that the so called "Land of the Free" was never anything like until LBJ, reviled for the Vietnam War, did something about it.
When I say everyone here, I mean me.
I hope that you liked "who made it hard for you?" Talk about a New Year's gift!
It either whizzed over my head or slithered past my feet. Please send next one well labelled
was like that everywhere. You had the Irish close by, then it just goes on and on all the way to Hong Kong. We had poll taxes up until the 1960's in this country. That meant that you really, really had to want to vote, because it would cost a working man (no working women then) about a day's pay to vote. (Not to mention, who was going to give you to time off to exercise your franchise?)
The Taliban regime must take a lot of the fun out of cross-dressing.
No, no! They're really not skirts. I swear it. See, the leather purse hanging over my wedding tackle proves it. Not to mention the nail file in my knee-highs.
...it is really inadvisable to call it a skirt when in the company of any Scotsmen. Or women. Or children. Actually, unless you want to end up as an unfortunate statistic, I'd really avoid it completely. Especially if there has been alcohol consumed.
Also, there is a tradition that a Scotsman must draw blood if they unsheath their Sgian Dhubs.
PS. This is not intended as threatening at all.
But there have been people beaten up for less.
out of you people! I know (and love) plenty of Scots. I think that we've have determined that I am as tall as your hubby, so my rapier-like wit rarely gets me into physical altercations. Just a joke, please!
I just finished reading the newest Alexander (is that his first name?) McCall Smith story set in Edinburgh. Enjoy him and them very much. In fact, we are correspondents. Would I put myself through one of those books if I were a Scots-hater?
The PS I put where I said that it wasn't intended to be threatening in any way?
I really didn't intend it to be threatening in any way.
And height/weight/muscles have never been any kind of consideration for boozed up Scot's.
Every single one of us believes that we are Tyson, Rocky and Hercules rolled into one, even the men.
I was going to ask you yesterday, but I am usually pretty good about figuring out simple things from other languages. I assume that "dhubs" means black, so in this case "scian" must by eye pencil or eyeliner. Is that correct? That would explain why blood must be spilled if your black eye pencil is drawn in anger.
If roused to anger, we draw our kohl pencils and make our enemy look like Alice Cooper.
They'll only allow crescent dressing. Or was that your joke in the first place.
My jokes are better than that.
Have you ever been up Cross Fell- it's the highest point on the Pennine Way and there are two shelters there, one cross shaped and one crescent. Isn't that really interesting.
I might give it a couple of points.
But can't tell you where it is as I'd have to tell you who I am.
Thanks for the brief chat but need to be up early, time for me hot chocolate and bedtime story.
Goodnight.
. . . while my ugly sisters went off to the ball, and I decided to cheer myself up by e-mailing links to lots of my old (failed) submissions to the tiny handful of friends who'll still listen to me, droning on about how funny I am and how awful those cruel and heartless Newsbiscuit bastards are etc etc.
Well, to cut a long story short, as a lovely unexpected surprise, there has been a mass distortion of the vote created by helpful friends from the drop-in centre. This has resulted in the immensely satisfying but clearly rigged appearance of FIVE of my subs in today's Top Ten.
I didn't actually solicit this show of solidarity but I'm not going to pretend I don't like it and, what's more, I think I really deserve it too.
It won't last much longer but it's been nice. And I'd like to wish me a Happy New Year.
palindromes, or something like that? Are you the same person? Time to come clean.
I've been rumbled.
Back to business: a truebsicuit
I'll bet if they'd spent the money on teaching it would have more effect on performance.
Why ain't you at yer place of learning t'day?!
If you don't go to yer place of learning, you ain't ever gonna learn how ter screw the system!
Congratulations to StoopyDeGunt who is the winner of the coveted NewsBiscuit Writer of the Month for December. Several cracking front pages plus some other stories that nearly made it, gave Stoopy the edge over close runner up Ianslat. Special mentions also for Des Custard, Genghis Cohen, nealdoran and Goatboy.
Stoopy wins a coveted NewsBiscuit mug, plus a holiday for two in his very own home.
December was a great month for the subs board with around twenty different contributors getting stuff on the front page, plus some excellent one liners.
Keep it coming and thanks to everyone who bought the book this Christmas...
Absolutely the right decision (unlike the Irish referendum apparently). Look forward to seeing your photo!
In keeping with football's manager of the month tradition, I'm now going to start dropping points and, after a vote of confidence, be gone in a couple of days.
Thanks again!
... of it being anyone but you last month, in my view. Well deserved congrats.
The race is now on for who gets the first second Newsbiscuit mug!
Apart from Christmas Day falling on the 25th, this had to be December's biggest certainty. Do let us know if the mug is all it's cracked up to be.
Stoopy has consistently produced some real crackers for weeks, so very deserving of this months honour.
Well done Mr de Gunt.
Well deserved in a month with a lot of competition -- and you coped effortlessly and gracefully with the pressure of being the bookies' favourite too!
Any odds floating around on Genghis to get the next award? I don't think anyone else has had a FP yet this year.... and Spring is on its way.
.......before you were famous. You wouldn't listen and now look at you. Well don't come crawling to me.....
Congratulations on a job well done. Rikkor
Looking forward to seeing your picture in the writer of the month section,,,
Believe me, you don't want to see my picture
...remember I've witnessed my mother in law's nude charity calendar photo this year; nothing could be worse than that.
Well done, Stoop. Incidentally, I thought you were great in the film re-make of Starsky and Hutch too.
A quick bit of advice to any newcomers on this site. For God sake don't say, write or do anything that remotely offends other more established writers. They won't bother reading your stuff they will just mark it 1/10 as soon as they see your name. Your stuff will then never be seen in the Top Ten.[or as soon as it appears it will soon disappear]
Does this matter ?. Well yes, because it is difficult to get stuff onto the front page if it doesn't regularly appear in this section.
Submissions should be marked on their quality not by the name of the person posting it.Perhaps we should make all posts anonymous.
I have posted submissions under a different name and always get a far better response.
And they say writers are supposed to be an open minded liberal bunch...Bullsh*t.
Egocentric f*ckwits, the lot of them.
I am presently not working on a book entitled, "How to make friends and influence people"
I've given you 11 for everything.
That's two fours and a three.
Lots of us aren't part of the in crowd either but it's only a bit of no-account daftness.
Keep submitting work under your other names (perhaps not Darky101 though) and take the better scores. Seeing as though the toys have all come out today and you have been offensive, that would seem to be a sensible way forward. And next Christmas ask Santa for a sense of proportion. This site is great fun but in the wider scheme of things, it is irrelevant.
I'm a new woman since I joined NB
you are soooooo much better looking than that other girl who used to hang around with Mike.
That's it.
Sorry you call them boats don't you.
I disagree (almost totally disagree... but not quite).
I think it's far better to blow things out of all proportion and to get your knickers in a twist about stuff.
It gives me a reason to get up in the morning.
Seems you have similar opinions...
Nothing to do with me but as I was dragged into it....
Sorry...I do apologise, I didn't realise people were not allowed to have a differing opinion. I will try hard not to have one in future.
Oh...and by the way....a few weeks ago I submitted a very satirical and single "?" on the subs board. ...justifiably it sank without trace or comment....but what do we have this week, a similar satirical and single "a" recieves ovations. Why not check your records, your spread sheets, your data base and your pie-charts for conformation. Maybe it is tiny little things of that nature that go to forming those differing opinions. Or is it just silly old me being paranoid again.
But I don't think it conveyed the irony as well as I'd intended.
Just got to hope that the people who choose the Front Page look at all the submissions rather than just the top ten, though chances are the editor's probably view their own submissions very favourably.
There is some very good stuff out there in the NB vaults that never get's anywhere near the Top Ten.
If good writers want to get more exposure in a less judgemental environment may I suggest thespoof.com
I am bitter and twisted about this. Ofcourse. I haven't eaten for days.
thepoof.com. Is that true? Is it? Answer me!
Cheap gay jokes backed by little wit or subtlety . Just hope 'Are you being served ?' comes back, you'd be perfect.
Don't imagine that I am singling out one group for cheap shots. My constant calls for jihad against Montenegrans and Basques (of all sexual persuasions) is proof positive that I refuse to discriminate (in any sense of that word). Sir/Madam, my seconds will call on you at dawn.
I thought that meant "are you twelve?". I'm happy (I guess) to find out it's "are you one, too?". Phew!
I suppose R U Twelve would have lots of ads for excursions to Thailand.
It'd mean it won't be long before you're a granny.
Now I have to say Rikkor that is funny. Excellent work mate. You'll be working on 'Mock of the Week' before we can say Ironic.
more like.
Evil - have you had your email from them? I've just had one saying one of my sketches was shortlisted but isn't going to be used. Some interesting feedback on it though. Strangely I thought it was the weakest of the three I sent them. Hope you've had more joy.
I had an email on the 30th. They said they like one of my sketches but it is up against one by another writer which is on the same theme so I have competition to get in. I was asked to rewrite the ending because it didn't have a big enough laugh at the end (which I completely agree with). I did a new ending in about four hours and sent it back on the same day (one of the recording deadlines is Monday 5th so I thought I ought to get it done ASAP and forget trying to look nonchalant). I was worried that I did the rewrite too quickly but in the past three days I have not come up with a better ending than what I sent so I'm happy that I have done my best.
Anyway, I haven't heard anything since so I'm not really that optimistic and I think I'll probably be dropped for the other sketch. Still, it's bloody amazing to get such positive feedback; especially since this is the first set of sketches I have ever written and submitted for anything.
Sorry you didn't get in, it would have been nice to have had at least one biscuiteer in the show... unless there's anyone else out there hiding their light....
I think they said they were recording up to about the 13th didn't they, so you might hear yet.
There were about 1,500 submitters, and only 180 got a response, so getting that far was quite an achievement in itself.
And here's hoping you still make the final cut, Evil.
Does that mean visitors will no longer have to kiss the Pope's ring?
(never been a consumated relationship)
should carry a health warning this time of year. Every time one reads it, one laughs - and all that cackling is painfully loud inside one's head.
Had a mouthful of Bombay mix (or is it Mumbai mix now) from the bowl left over from the party the night before then felt a bit sick with the thought of out the fifty or so guests probably 1 in 10 didn't wash their hands after their last crap; then five minutes later you've got the taste so go back for more?
Just waffling here and trying to keep out the way.
I had never thought of that before. On the plus side all those Mumbai nonoviruses could help you regain your preChristmas figure.
I had the shits for a week I actually put on weight!
Ain't life a bastard?
I've spent the past month stuffing my face with any grub that wasn't nailed down, some of it healthy some of it the kind of thing that'd have St. Jamie in a tizz. And I have lost weight.
This might be good, but seeing as I'm actually trying to put some pounds ON it's bloody annoyi




